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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] LB291 - LLI CRs part 1 uploaded


Hi Mohamed,

I have some feedback below on your proposed text, in the first paragraph. Similar changes would apply for the 2nd para.

If the corresponding a non-AP MLD with which the LLI non-AP STA is affiliated, has an SCS stream established with its associated AP MLD,  in which the LLI Requested field in the QoS Characteristics element is equal to 1 and the Direction field in the QoS Characteristics element has a value of 0 (Uplink), then an LLI non-AP STA affiliated with the same the non-AP MLD shall not establish an SCS stream with its associated LLI AP MLD where the LLI Requested field in the QoS Characteristics element is equal to 1 and the Direction field has a value of 2 (Direct Link).

If the corresponding non-AP MLD with which the LLI non-AP STA affiliated has an SCS stream established with its associated AP MLD, in which the LLI Requested field in the QoS Characteristics element is equal to 1 and the Direction field in the QoS Characteristics has a value of 2 (Direct Link), an LLI non-AP STA affiliated with the same non-AP MLD shall not establish an SCS stream with its associated LLI AP where the LLI Requested field in the QoS Characteristics element is equal to 1 and the Direction field in the QoS Characteristics has a value of 0 (Uplink).

Thanks,
Binita

On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:57 AM Mohamed Abouelseoud <mohamed.a.abouelseoud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Atshshi,


Thanks for providing the text to resolve the comment and for the discussion. Regarding the proposed note, I’m not convinced that this note is necessary. This is the typical behavior of setting the TID field, and the note doesn’t provide any information that resolves ambiguity.


If you still think this note is necessary, I’m open to assigning the comment to you so you can present it yourself.


Thanks,

Mohamed

 



On Nov 13, 2025, at 8:25 AM, SHIRAKAWA Atsushi <shirakawa.atsushi@mail.sharp> wrote:

Hi Mohamed
 
Regarding #6346, my proposal for NOTE is below and it is inserted in attached document.
 
(#6346)NOTE: The TID field in the QoS Characteristics element  may be set to a value from 0 through 7, corresponding to AC_BK, AC_BE, AC_VI and AC_VO. Acceptance of the value is determined by the UHR AP STA.
 
 
Is it possible to add further NOTE which cover your claim below.
 
>>  low latency traffic does not set the AC category correctly and it is a good practice to enable the LLI to be flexible in definition.
 
 
BR.
Atsushi.
 
 
From: Mohamed Abouelseoud <mohamed.a.abouelseoud@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2025 11:54 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] LB291 - LLI CRs part 1 uploaded
 
Hi Atsushi,
Thanks for the comments and for reviewing the draft.
The SCS agreement enables both the AP and the non-AP STA to agree on what LLI is. Since it is all through negotiation, it’s up to the agreement to decide what is LLI depending on the application. Some applications that use low latency traffic does not set the AC category correctly and it is a good practice to enable the LLI to be flexible in definition.
Thanks
Mohamed
 


On Nov 7, 2025, at 6:34 PM, SHIRAKAWA Atsushi <shirakawa.atsushi@MAIL.SHARP> wrote:
 
Hi Mohamed
 
Thank you for sharing CRD for LLI.
Regarding 6436, definition of Low latency traffic become more clearer however I still feel weird
because LLI requested = 1  can be applied even if TID is 0 through 3 those are corresponding to AC_BK, AC_BE.
 
In general traffic belonging to AC_BK, AC_BE cannot be classified in low latency traffic because those are lower priority traffic.
 
BR.
Atsushi.
 
 
 
From: Mohamed Abouelseoud <mohamed.a.abouelseoud@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2025 12:19 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] LB291 - LLI CRs part 1 uploaded
 
Hi all,
I have uploaded 11-25-1918r0 to resolve 118 comments on LLI 
 
Please let me know if you have any feedback or comments 
Thanks,
Mohamed Abouelseoud 
 

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