RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
I prefer the 1 p.m. start.
Branislav
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Robert
> D. Love
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:54 PM
> To: Thomas Kolze; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
> Subject: Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
>
>
>
> All, if there is a serious issue of moving the meeting time
> earlier, I am
> willing to compromise by starting the plenary at 1:30pm
> instead of 1:00pm on
> Monday. That is the time for our first meeting REQUIRED for 802.20
> attendance. Even if we start at 1:00pm, there is no way we
> will be beyond
> the familiar boiler-plate slides by 1:30pm, which is the time
> each of us
> should be planning on being there, so I still prefer to start
> at 1:00pm.
> The meeting agenda is developed based on the work ahead of
> us. Because
> there has not been the sense of urgency in the past to squeeze another
> couple of hours into our work week is no excuse to continue on a
> lackadaisical schedule.
>
> As far as not being able to get a sense of the group, it
> seems that we are
> getting a sense of both those in favor and against the move
> of the 802.20
> start time with exactly the process that is going on now.
>
> Finally, the principal task of 802.20 is to move the work of
> 802.20 forward.
> Understanding that many people have interest in more than one
> working group,
> the conference organizers have specifically planned in substantial
> opportunity to interact with participants from other Working
> Groups, and to
> find out what they are planning for the week. There is an 802 opening
> plenary where we can hear first hand what is planned for the
> week. There
> are also the set of 802 WG websites where we can read any and all
> contributions, including the WG agendas, to learn what is
> happening. We can
> join any and all 802 Working Group reflectors that we have an
> interest in.
> Finally, there is time in the mornings before the meetings
> while we have our
> continental breakfasts, during breaks, and during the
> Wednesday evening
> social, to interact with members of other Working Groups.
> Given all these
> opportunities, I am hard pressed to see why it would be a
> hardship to miss
> the joint wireless opening plenary. On the other hand, I
> certainly see a
> hardship to have 802.20 give up at least two precious hours
> of our plenary
> meeting to attend a meeting that does almost nothing to
> advance the agenda
> and mission of 802.20.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robert D. Love
> President, LAN Connect Consultants
> 7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
> Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
> email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 208 978-1187
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Kolze" <tkolze@broadcom.com>
> To: <stds-802-mobility@ieee.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:59 PM
> Subject: RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
>
>
> >
> > Jerry, colleagues,
> >
> > I prefer continuing with the policy we at 802.20 decided
> upon months ago,
> > and practiced in Vancouver: we should conduct the 802.20
> plenary after
> the
> > joint wireless plenary.
> >
> > I feel it would be inappropriate for you to change this decision and
> > practice of the group, at this time.
> >
> > With all respect for our colleagues, and I encourage all to
> speak their
> > opinions and wishes, as you have indeed requested, but I do
> not see how a
> > true "sense of the group" can be collected now, to justify
> changing the
> > starting time of our plenary. There is less than a month to go!
> >
> > It is an additional matter of concern, for me at least,
> that the starting
> > time for our plenary is being suggested to move EARLIER.
> How could any
> > majority of the group members, regardless of how sizable,
> move the meeting
> > to an EARLIER time, on short notice, if even ONE member is
> not heard from
> > and in agreement? How is it fair to move UP the starting
> time of the
> > plenary, by any non-unanimous majority? Again, I feel it would be
> > especially inappropriate for you to move the start time of
> the 802 plenary
> > to an earlier time; this would have an especially bad
> appearance for a
> > Chair, in overturning the direction and practice previously
> selected by
> the
> > group. My opinion.
> >
> > Finally, for those interested in the wireless PARs, and
> possibly other
> > activities and concerns of the 802 wireless groups, it
> seems to me more
> > efficient to attend the wireless opening plenary, and use
> the occasion to
> > ask questions, and coordinate, than to blow off the meeting
> and try to
> > coordinate in a more ad hoc manner. I think the two-hour
> opening plenary
> > should be a priority, and be utilized, by those greatly
> interested in the
> > wireless PARs. Of course, there are many reasons for
> interest in the
> > wireless plenary, and it is not my position here to weight
> one more than
> any
> > other. It IS my opinion that moving up our 802.20 plenary is
> inappropriate
> > at this time.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Thomas J. Kolze, Ph.D.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> > Crowley
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:29 AM
> > To: 'Robert D. Love'; 'Jerry Upton'; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
> >
> >
> > I prefer keeping the original 4 pm time for the opening
> 802.20 plenary.
> > Since 802.20 was formed, I think I have attended all of the
> joint wireless
> > plenary meetings, as well as many 802.11 closing plenary meetings on
> Friday.
> > Though I spend most of my time in 802.20, I am interested in what is
> > happening in all other 802 wireless groups. I find those
> two meetings to
> be
> > useful for getting a sense of where things stand, and for exchanging
> > information with participants from other groups.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Crowley
> >
> > -------
> > Steven J. Crowley, P.E.
> > 1201 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W. Suite 300
> > Washington, D.C. 20004
> >
> > Tel. +1-202-544-5400
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> >
> > E-mail scrowley@attglobal.net
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
> > > [mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf
> > > Of Robert D. Love
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:51 AM
> > > To: Jerry Upton; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
> > > Subject: Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
> > >
> > >
> > > All, whether you are for or against moving the opening 802.20
> > > plenary at 1:00pm rather than at 4:00pm, please make your
> > > preference known by a quick email to this reflector if you
> > > haven't already done so. Dawn needs to know what our Monday
> > > afternoon meeting room requirements are by this Friday, so
> > > Jerry needs to make a decision by then and let Dawn know.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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