Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
Steve, thank you for your explanation. I certainly understand that it may
be a good thing for you and for some of the other 802.20 participants to
have us participate in the Wireless opening plenary, although I still think
it is a bad deal for 802.20. With regard to using that time to build
relationships with the other wireless groups to get their support at the
SEC, I have found over the last 20+ years of participating in and watching
the SEC operate, that decisions to move PARs and Draft Standards forward are
really based primarily on process. Certainly, the WG chair needs to have a
good working relationship with the other members of the SEC, but that is
usually a given. It is far less critical whether or not there is a lot of
cross pollination among the WG members.
Best regards,
Robert D. Love
President, LAN Connect Consultants
7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 208 978-1187
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Crowley" <scrowley@attglobal.net>
To: <stds-802-mobility@ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf
> > Of Robert D. Love
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:54 PM
> > To: Thomas Kolze; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
> >
> > Understanding that many people have interest in more than one
> > working group, the conference organizers have specifically
> > planned in substantial opportunity to interact with
> > participants from other Working Groups, and to find out what
> > they are planning for the week. There is an 802 opening
> > plenary where we can hear first hand what is planned for the
> > week. There are also the set of 802 WG websites where we can
> > read any and all contributions, including the WG agendas, to
> > learn what is happening. We can join any and all 802 Working
> > Group reflectors that we have an interest in.
> > Finally, there is time in the mornings before the meetings
> > while we have our continental breakfasts, during breaks, and
> > during the Wednesday evening social, to interact with members
> > of other Working Groups. Given all these opportunities, I
> > am hard pressed to see why it would be a hardship to miss the
> > joint wireless opening plenary.
>
> Bob, for me, the opportunities above can be useful, but are inadequate
> substitutes for the wireless plenary. The 802 plenary, while apparently
> sufficient for the wireline folks, is too brief and high-level from a
> wireless standpoint. Two-hours in the joint wireless plenary lets me get
the
> most 802 wireless information in the smallest amount of time. After the
> joint wireless plenary, I then know how to better allocate my time, and
plan
> meetings during the breaks, socials, etc. you mention above, all the while
> focusing on 802.20.
>
> For others in 802.20, as we have seen, the wireless plenary is not that
> useful. I have no argument with those views.
>
> > On the other hand, I
> > certainly see a hardship to have 802.20 give up at least two
> > precious hours of our plenary meeting to attend a meeting
> > that does almost nothing to advance the agenda and mission of 802.20.
>
> I don't see the hardship. I see potential downsides with 802.20 not
> participating in the wireless "plenary", especially with regard to our
> relationships with the other wireless Working Groups -- Groups whose votes
> we may need on the Executive Committee someday.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Crowley
>
>
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