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RE: Redirection of IPF dollars

Apparently, the IEEE staff is working up a proposal for us that will be
presented at the November meeting.  I think we should allocate some time
during the opening plenary meeting to hear this proposal, and then discuss
it during the WG meetings, with a goal of reaching a decision at the
Thursday PM meeting.  Included are some messages I exchanged with the


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As a matter of fact we're working on such a proposal. Jim Carlo recently  proposed this topic to us during the September board series.   Jerry Walker is in the process of putting together a proposal for the 802 committee which will be discussed at the upcoming meeting in November.  I've copied them both of your proposal below.  

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From:	Howard Frazier []
Sent:	Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:26 PM
Subject:	a wild idea


Every couple of years, the membership of the IEEE P802 LAN/MAN
Standards Committee asks itself the question "Why aren't our standards
freely available?".  The answer, of course, is that there are costs
associated with publishing these fine documents, and costs associated
with the development of these documents, and there ain't no such thing
as a free lunch, etc, etc, etc.

Well, the idea has come up again, this time in the context of our other
perenial debate, that being the International Participation Fee.  Some
folks would like to redirect the money that we are sending to ISO into
the coffers of the IEEE-SA, in the hopes that this would offset the
loss of revenue from 802 standards, and allow the IEEE to distribute
them free of charge.

The IPF amounts to about $100,000 per year.  If P802 sent $100 grand
per year to the IEEE-SA, would this offset the revenue that would
normally be accrued from the sale of 802 standards?  If P802 sent $100
grand per year to the IEEE-SA, could our standards be made freely
available? Let me assume that it would be sufficient to make them
freely available on the WWW, with CDROMs and paper copies available for
a nominal fee to cover the cost of duplication.

Howard Frazier
IEEE P802 LMSC Recording Secretary

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