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RE: +++Ballot on 802.15 Press Release at IEEE-SA

Vic, can you propose any gentle change of wording that would not, in your
mind, insinuate that 802.11 is inferior in those regards?  I am thinking of
words such as,
"in the tradition of 802 Wireless standards, IEEE 802.15 WPAN and Bluetooth
technology will provide ..."

I would hate to see 802.15 unable to brag about their capabilities.
However, your concern of not wanting them to do it at the expense of 802.11
technology is well taken.

Best regards.

Robert D. Love
Program Manager, IBM ACS - US
Chair IEEE 802.5 Token Ring Working Group
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"Hayes, Vic (Vic)" <> on 02/14/2000 05:22:14 AM

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To:   "802.0 reflector" <>, jcarlo <>
cc:   "i Petrick, Al Parkervision" <>, "Skellern,
      David" <>, "O'Hara, Bob"
Subject:  RE: +++Ballot on 802.15 Press Release at IEEE-SA

Colleagues in the Executive Committee,

I vote heavily against the motion because of the following reasons:

The sentence:
Devices using the IEEE 802.15 WPAN and Bluetooth technology will provide
country-to-country usage for travelers. They will be able to be used in
cars, airplanes and boats.

still makes it appear as if 802.11

1. is not allowed to work in virtually all countries. In fact the members
and the fact
    that 802.11 existed and wrote letters to many Administrations made the
    available for our type of devices on a general license.
2. can not work in cars, airplanes, boats etc. 802.11 is capable of working
on those

Permitting the press release as it is out for ballot is a blow in the face
of LMSC.

> ----------
> From:   Jim Carlo[]
> Sent:   Monday, February 14, 2000 02:12
> To:     IEEE802
> Subject:     +++Ballot on 802.15 Press Release at IEEE-SA
> <<File: Draft-News-Release-Feb00-r1.doc>>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> SEC OFFICIAL EMAIL BALLOT     802.0/13Feb2000
> Issue Date:   13Feb2000        Closing Date: 16Feb2000
> Moved By:     Bob Heile
> Seconded By:  Jim Carlo
> Move: Authorize (In Principal after more edits) Press Release at IEEEE-SA
> on
> IEEE 802.15
> I have attached below a draft press release that Karen McCabe is
> originating
> from the IEEE based on the projects in IEEE 802.15. While strictly
> speaking,
> this press release is somewhat independent of the IEEE802 SEC (we did not
> originate it), I have discussed with Karen that as IEEE 802 sponsor I
> would
> like to approve any press releases that deal in a major way with one of
> our
> Working Groups.
> Please avoid the temptation to word-engineer this Press Release, as it
> will
> possibly be altered again by the IEEE (which is why I am asking for
> approval
> in principal). There has been considerable discussions between 802.11 and
> 802.15 already on the wording of this press release.
> Note that voting members of SEC are:
> Howard Frazier -
> Bob Grow -
> Paul Nikolich -
> Buzz Rigsbee -
> Bill Lidinsky -
> Geoff Thompson -
> Bob Love -
> Chip Benson -
> Vic Hayes -
> Robert Russell -
> Bob Heile -
> Roger Marks -
> Jim Carlo - Chair
> Jim Carlo( Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
> Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee