RE: Invitation to Co-Sign Letter to IEEE Election Candidatesregarding ISTO
Jim's message raises an interesting issue: how would 802 go about
getting an item onto the agenda of the IEEE-SA Standards Board?
I have heard that a motion related to ISTO was entered at the
Standards Board meeting but was not voted upon. If 802 wanted a
motion entered and voted upon, what would we do to ensure that result?
What about a motion asking the Computer Society Standards Activity
Board (SAB) to make a motion? Do they have any status at the
Standards Board, or the the Board just a bunch of individuals?
Even if the SAB has no status, I suspect that their members may
support us if we suggested a specific motion.
P.S. I support Bob Love's suggestion.
>To date, IEEE 802 has been very apolitical on the IEEE-SA BOG elections. We
>have not individually offered a candidate from IEEE 802 specifically, we
>have not lobbied hard for any candidates, and we have stayed out of the IEEE
>BOG politics (as it does not immediately affect the things we do best, which
>is to write a standard). We do have strong participation from IEEE 802 in
>the Standards Board (NesCom, RevCom, Board), because these organizations
>directly affect our standards process. We have a very distant relationship
>with the Computer Society, which is our sponsor, but hardly mentioned in our
>efforts. I also work somewhat with Communications Society, through a
>bi-monthly 802 column in Newtork Magazine. But the main efforts of the
>leadership is on standards.
>I would rather concentrate on making IEEE 802 a better place to do
>standards, improve our own process as needed, than participate in the
>"standards arena" politics. Between ANSI initiatives, IEEE-ISTO, IEEE
>Corporate Members, TIA activities with Ethernet, there is a lot going on for
>anyone who wants to battle here. I have done some of this (more than I
>want), in my job as chair of IEEE 802, but view that if IEEE 802 does
>timely, high quality public standards, then we will be successful.
>I don't believe we should use our 802ALL reflector for political actions and
>supporting candidates - without a specific SEC motion. I do have some
>thoughts on how to position IEEE 802 organization better in the future, and
>was planning to schedule an hour on Sunday evening after the rules
>Jim Carlo(firstname.lastname@example.org) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
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>From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On
>Behalf Of RDLove
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:31 AM
>To: Roger B. Marks
>Subject: Re: Invitation to Co-Sign Letter to IEEE Election
>Roger, I firmly support your effort and would support having Buzz send a
>copy of your invitation to the entire 802 mailing list.
>Jim, can that be done without a separate motion and email ballot? I believe
>we have already stated the 802 SEC position which reflects Roger's posted
>letter to the candidates. This is certainly one case where time is of the
>Robert D. Love
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Roger B. Marks <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>To: <email@example.com>; <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:51 PM
>Subject: Invitation to Co-Sign Letter to IEEE Election Candidatesregarding
>> 8 October 2000
>> IEEE is now carrying out its annual election. Many candidates have
>> prepared position statements, but none addresses the issue of how
>> IEEE will deal with its Industry Standards and Technology
>> Organization (ISTO). As a voter, it is essential for me to understand
>> their positions on this critical issue.
>> In order to gather input on this topic, and to educate the candidates
>> on it, I have prepared a letter inquiring as to their positions. I
>> have posted the letter to my personal web site
>> In order to let the candidates know that others share my interest in
>> their positions, I am requesting that those who do please let me know
>> that they they wish to be listed as co-signers of the letter. To
>> join, first read the letter and then follow the link at the end to a
>> simple form. I will ask for your name and IEEE status to pass along
>> to the candidates, and I will collect your email address so that I
>> may pass any responses back to you. I will also post candidate
>> responses to the web.
>> Time is short. I will distribute my letter to the candidates in one
>> week: on 15 October 2000. I will post their responses as I receive
>> them. On 26 October, I will email the co-signers (and other
>> interested individuals and groups) with a URL to the candidate
>> positions. This is six days before the 1 November 2000 deadline for
>> the receipt of ballots.
>> If you care about this issue, please read the letter
>> <http://wireless-standards.com> and then co-sign it immediately if
>> you wish.
>> If IEEE is to continue to function as a vibrantly democratic
>> institution, the members need to know the stance of the candidates on
>> the most important issues we face. If you are interested in IEEE's
>> relationship with ISTO, please participate by joining me.
>> Roger Marks, IEEE Member
>> Please feel free to distribute this Invitation to colleagues who may
>> be interested.
>> cc: candidates in IEEE Election