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RE: [802SEC] PASS: +++ RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot

I will take care of this, as Tony suggests.


-----Original Message-----
From: []On
Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:03 AM
Cc: IEEE802
Subject: Re: [802SEC] PASS: +++ RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot

Jim -

I believe that this is a job for the 802 LMSC Webmaster (presumably Bob
O'Hara these days) in collaboration with the 802.11 Webmaster. Currently,
the FRD is in HTML format, courtesy of Vic Hayes, and is located at:

which seems to be on the 802.11 website.  Access to it from the 802 LMSC
website is via a weblink on the "802 Procedural Documents" page
(, which in turn, is
reached from the 802 home page via a link marked "IEEE 802 Operating Rules
and Other Documents".

I believe what needs to be done is fairly simple, as follows:

1) Add a new link to the 802 home page, labelled "IEEE 802 archived and
obsolete documents", pointing to a new page created for this
purpose.  Create the new page, with a suitable heading & an introductory
para indicating that the documents listed on the page are archived copies
of obsolete documents, which will be deleted after the archive period
indicated for each one.

2) Take a copy of the FRD from its current location on the 802.11 website,
and edit it to include the Exec motion at the top of the first page. Create
a link to this page on the new "IEEE 802 archived and obsolete documents"
page, indicating that the document will be archived for a period of 5
years, after which time it will be deleted.

3) Delete the link to the FRD from the existing "802 Procedural Documents"

4) Delete the FRD page from the 802.11 website.


At 21:01 24/04/2001 -0500, Jim Carlo wrote:

>PASS: Tony, please consider where the FR should be archived, and put a note
>in the text with this motion below that this PRD is no longer an 802
>standing document.
>9-0-1 (one person did not vote)
>Bob O'Hara - Abstain
>Bob Grow - Approve (reluctantly) with comment
>Paul Nikolich - Approve
>Buzz Rigsbee - Approve
>Vic Hayes - Approve
>Tony Jeffree - Approve
>Geoff Thompson -
>Stuart Kerry - Approve
>Bob Heile - Approve
>Roger Marks - Approve
>Mike Takefman - Approve
>Jim Carlo - Chair
>I still find some material in the FR that I don't believe is documented
>elsewhere for a number of our Working Groups.  Unfortunately, the relevant
>information is overwhelmed by redundant, outdated and misleading
>information. --Bob Grow
>-----Original Message-----
>From: []On
>Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
>Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:17 PM
>Subject: RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot
>At the Thursday Exec meeting, we approved putting the following motion to a
>30-day Exec letter ballot:
>"The SEC considers that ongoing maintenance of the 802 Functional
>Requirements document is no longer required, given that its useful content
>has now been documented elsewhere.  Therefore, the SEC no longer considers
>the FRD to be an 802 standing document, and deprecates its use. The FRD is
>to be archived on the IEEE 802 website for the next five years, along with
>a record of this motion; after that time, the document is to be deleted."
>Please consider this ballot to have started as of the date of this message;
>the closing date is therefore Saturday 21st April.