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RE: [802SEC] PASS: +++ RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot

The FRD has now been updated with the motion that deprecated its use.  The
index page to the archived documents has also been updated to reflect the
date of the announcement of the passage of the motion as the start of the
5-year clock.

The archived document(s) is reached from the 802 home page.


-----Original Message-----
From: []On
Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:15 PM
To: Bob O'Hara
Cc:; 'IEEE802'
Subject: RE: [802SEC] PASS: +++ RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot

Bob -

Looks great so far - the only thing missing is to add the wording of the
motion we passed to the top of the FRD document itself, so we have a record
of why the document is now obsolete.


At 21:50 25/04/2001 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
>The archive and obsolete documents page is now up.  It is reached form the
>802 home page (  I would appreciate it if you would take a
>look and let me know if it is what you desired.
>  -Bob
>-----Original Message-----
>From: []On
>Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:03 AM
>Cc: IEEE802
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] PASS: +++ RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot
>Jim -
>I believe that this is a job for the 802 LMSC Webmaster (presumably Bob
>O'Hara these days) in collaboration with the 802.11 Webmaster. Currently,
>the FRD is in HTML format, courtesy of Vic Hayes, and is located at:
>which seems to be on the 802.11 website.  Access to it from the 802 LMSC
>website is via a weblink on the "802 Procedural Documents" page
>(, which in turn, is
>reached from the 802 home page via a link marked "IEEE 802 Operating Rules
>and Other Documents".
>I believe what needs to be done is fairly simple, as follows:
>1) Add a new link to the 802 home page, labelled "IEEE 802 archived and
>obsolete documents", pointing to a new page created for this
>purpose.  Create the new page, with a suitable heading & an introductory
>para indicating that the documents listed on the page are archived copies
>of obsolete documents, which will be deleted after the archive period
>indicated for each one.
>2) Take a copy of the FRD from its current location on the 802.11 website,
>and edit it to include the Exec motion at the top of the first page. Create
>a link to this page on the new "IEEE 802 archived and obsolete documents"
>page, indicating that the document will be archived for a period of 5
>years, after which time it will be deleted.
>3) Delete the link to the FRD from the existing "802 Procedural Documents"
>4) Delete the FRD page from the 802.11 website.
>At 21:01 24/04/2001 -0500, Jim Carlo wrote:
> >PASS: Tony, please consider where the FR should be archived, and put a
> >in the text with this motion below that this PRD is no longer an 802
> >standing document.
> >
> >9-0-1 (one person did not vote)
> >Bob O'Hara - Abstain
> >Bob Grow - Approve (reluctantly) with comment
> >Paul Nikolich - Approve
> >Buzz Rigsbee - Approve
> >Vic Hayes - Approve
> >Tony Jeffree - Approve
> >Geoff Thompson -
> >Stuart Kerry - Approve
> >Bob Heile - Approve
> >Roger Marks - Approve
> >Mike Takefman - Approve
> >Jim Carlo - Chair
> >
> >Comments
> >I still find some material in the FR that I don't believe is documented
> >elsewhere for a number of our Working Groups.  Unfortunately, the
> >information is overwhelmed by redundant, outdated and misleading
> >information. --Bob Grow
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: []On
> >Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
> >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:17 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: RIP FR - Exec 30 day Ballot
> >
> >At the Thursday Exec meeting, we approved putting the following motion to
> >30-day Exec letter ballot:
> >
> >"The SEC considers that ongoing maintenance of the 802 Functional
> >Requirements document is no longer required, given that its useful
> >has now been documented elsewhere.  Therefore, the SEC no longer
> >the FRD to be an 802 standing document, and deprecates its use. The FRD
> >to be archived on the IEEE 802 website for the next five years, along
> >a record of this motion; after that time, the document is to be deleted."
> >
> >Please consider this ballot to have started as of the date of this
> >the closing date is therefore Saturday 21st April.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Tony