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Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Definingtimes for Opening and Closing SEC Meetings

I vote "Disapprove", with the following comments:

The proposed time of the Closing SEC Meeting is too late. The change 
will extend the SEC member's responsibility by 18 hours each meeting; 
due to travel limitations, this will, in effect, be a 24 hour 
extension. This extra responsibility will seriously limit the pool of 
potential SEC candidates.

Perhaps more importantly, the delay will limit the access of 
observers to the SEC process. Regular 802 participants will find it 
difficult to justify saying over another night to observe. 
Furthermore, given that 802 Plenary Sessions are virtually always in 
the US, non-US participants will have an extremely long trip if they 
wish to attend the SEC as observers. The same is true of SEC members, 
of course, which means that this change will strongly limit our 
ability to expand our contingent of non-US SEC members.

The 802.16 Working Group has taken a strong stance on this issue, 
approving unanimously in its Closing Plenary (24 May 2002) the 
following motion: "To urge that SEC meetings be concluded by noon on 
Friday of each 802 Plenary week in order to ensure that SEC meetings 
remain open in practice as well as in theory."

I suggest that the rules change be modified to provide that the 
Closing SEC Meeting be held from 8 am until noon on Friday. I see the 
following advantages:

*SEC members and observers could go home on Friday afternoon.
*This schedule would reduce or eliminate the possibility of WGs 
holding the closing meetings just before the SEC meeting. WGs would 
have time to get their work in order.
*This schedule would accommodate WGs that need more time than is 
allowed by the Thursday night SEC meeting. WGs could, if necessary, 
hold their closing plenaries on Thursday night. For example, 802.16 
has decided to do so in July.
*A Friday afternoon SEC meeting would provide only about four hours 
more WG time than a Friday morning SEC meeting. Most of this could be 
recovered on Thursday night, if groups aren't already putting that 
time to use.
*Groups that need more time can and should adjust their starting 
times appropriately. Sunday is available if necessary.
*Another possibility to which I am open is to move the SEC Opening 
Meeting to Sunday night and scheduling the 802 Opening Plenary for 
8-9 am Monday. This would let the WGs get started at 9 am Monday 
morning. Other WGs, at their option, could still start later. This 
earlier SEC start would entail an additional burden for SEC members. 
However, for most, it doesn't entail any extra nights away from home.


At 4:52 PM -0500 02/03/17, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>Dear SEC,
>Scope:  Rules Change to set the Plenary Session opening and closing SEC
>meeting times.
>Purpose: To give Working Groups more meeting time by moving the closing SEC
>meeting to Friday and to eliminate confusion surrounding the times of the
>opening and closing SEC meetings.
>At the March 2001 Plenary Session Howard Frazier proposed making the times
>of the opening and closing SEC meetings during plenary sessions flexible’
>with respect to absolute start times.  He proposed a rules change which Paul
>Nikolich was to have initiated.  The rules change process was never started,
>resulting in the closing SEC meeting times being set in an ad-hoc manner
>(March, Fri 8-12PM; July, Fri 3-7PM; November, Fri 3-7PM; March 02, Friday
>1-6PM tentatively)
>The ballot opens March 18, 2002 and closes June 8, 2002 12 midnight EDT
>(remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE
>vote).  Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the 802-wide email list as
>well.  WG chairs, please invite your WG members to comment through you.
>--Paul Nikolich