RE: [802SEC] FW: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm)program motion:
Buzz,
Yes, someone does object to your changes.
I think you made some good suggestions. However, ever since Paul
brought the Task Force results forward, I have been willing to accept
them as a basis of Paul's proposal to turn over the March money. July
is a good time to conclude a longer-term agreement.
I disagree that "the present" is the right time to negotiate a deal.
While I would like the agreement to include your statement that "It
is hereby agreed that the wait period shall not exceed 180 days," the
IEEE-SA seems hesitant to do so. The Task Force wording is
wishy-washy. It should be clearer; OK, let's make it clearer. In July.
One thing I've learned about electronic voting (and this is relevant
to the rules change ballot on the topic) is that it's not amenable to
amendments (friendly or otherwise). Let's vote the motion.
Roger
At 1:50 PM -0700 02/06/05, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>Paul, Does anyone object to the changes I've suggested ???
>If not we're done and you can count my vote as an APPROVE.
>If there are some serious objections, then I'll agree to reconsider my vote,
>
>but I do think we need those changes and there's no time like the present.
>:)
>
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:Paul.nikolich@worldnet.att.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:40 PM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O; 'Grow, Bob'; Paul Nikolich@ieee; 'IEEE802'
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] FW: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm) progr am
>motion:
>
>Buzz,
>
>As Bob points out, voting yes shows good faith on 802's part to ensure the
>program continues and the details of the agreement can be tweaked
>appropriately at the July plenary session. A no vote will probaly terminate
>the program. Use your best judgement in casting your vote.
>
>--Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:24 PM
>To: 'Grow, Bob'; 'p.nikolich@ieee.org'; 'IEEE802'
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] FW: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm)
>progr am motion:
>
>
>Bob, I'm just saying I'd feel a lot more comfortable approving the release
>of funds when we have a mutually agreeable statement of the program. Once
>the money is released, the incentive to accept necessary changes may go down
>significantly. Let's get it right up front and everything will go smoothly
>in July.
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA 98124-2207
>Ph: 425 865-2443
>Fx: 425 865-6721
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:14 AM
>To: 'p.nikolich@ieee.org'; 'IEEE802'
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] FW: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm)
>progr am motion:
>
>
>
>Approve.
>
>In reply to Buzz's rationale for voting no. This motion is not an approval
>of the Agreement. That will have to be voted separately at the July
>meeting. I have recommended a minor change, and am open to Buzz's
>suggestions for tightening up the language on the wait period.
>
>I believe though it is appropriate as a measure of good faith to release the
>funds escrowed from the March meeting.
>
>--Bob Grow
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:Paul.nikolich@worldnet.att.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:44 AM
>To: 'IEEE802'
>Subject: [802SEC] FW: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm) program
>motion:
>
>
>Dear SEC,
>
>Attached below is an email ballot on the Get IEEE802 program. The original
>version of it was privately sent to SEC members yesterday with a file
>attachment on financial data that must remain confidential.
>
>This copy is identical except for the removal of the confidential file so
>that I could post it on the public SEC reflector. SEC members--please do
>not discuss the details of the confidential information on the SEC
>reflector. All other discussion on this motion can and should take place on
>the reflector to observe our policy of openess. I also included a copy of
>the background FAQ.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Paul Nikolich
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:Paul.nikolich@worldnet.att.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:05 PM
>To: 'Grow, Bob'; 'Thompson, Geoff'; 'Frazier, Howard'; 'O'Hara, Bob';
>'Kerry, Stuart'; 'Heile, Bob'; 'Jeffree, Tony'; 'Stevenson, Carl'; 'Marks,
>Roger'; 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; 'Takefman, Mike'; 'Sherman, Matthew';
>'Quackenbush, Bill'
>Cc: 'Walker, Jerry'
>Subject: +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Get IEEE 802(tm) program motion:
>
>Dear SEC,
>
>This is an SEC email ballot on an action to be taken by the IEEE 802 SEC on
>the Get IEEE 802(tm) program as moved by Roger Marks, seconded by Bob Grow.
>
>As you have all seen, representatives of the SEC, SA and BoG have been
>working hard to try to keep the program in place. Please keep in mind we
>are at a critical juncture at this point. If this motion passes, the
>program will stay in place. If not, the program will most likely terminate.
>Please also remember that the attached document describing the financial
>data is confidential to the SEC and should not be shared beyond this group.
>
>The email ballot opens on Tuesday June 4th 6PM EDT and closes Tuesday June
>11th 6PM EDT.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Paul Nikolich
>Chair, IEEE 802
>
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>802 SEC Motion
>Moved by: Roger Marks
>Second by: Bob Grow
>
>"To immediately release the March 2002 LMSC funds held in escrow for
>the 'Get IEEE 802' program, with the understanding that the SEC will
>consider approval, at its July 2002 meeting, of an agreement with the
>IEEE-SA based on the terms outlined in the document 'Get IEEE 802
>Program Agreement' (revision 2 dated June 4, 2002)."