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RE: [802SEC] followup to trademarks issue

I hope that the editorial staff plan to retrofit these changes to the 
existing 802 standards that have been needlessly "mangled" by the prior 
policy (Std 802 for example).


At 11:55 15/07/2002 -0700, Grow, Bob wrote:

>Implementation of editorial policy is in the hands of IEEE staff.  There is
>one action item for IEEE counsel to research on derivative use that can
>affect the policy.  It is my belief, and I believe the agreement from the
>meeting, that editorial style should be adjusted as soon as possible, and
>not delayed by the planned filing of "IEEE Std 802".  That could take some
>time, and since the current stylized trademark labels and especially the
>warnings do not decrease liability of the Institute current documents in
>preparation for publication should be initially published under the new
>agreed policy.
>--Bob Grow
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger B. Marks []
>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:41 AM
>Subject: [802SEC] followup to trademarks issue
>My understanding of our trademarks meeting of last Wednesday was that the
>"IEEE-SA Trademark Usage/Compliance Statement" should be replaced (in
>existing as well as in future standards) by:
> >"Trademark Statement: The marks IEEE(R) and 802 (R)  are registered
>trademarks of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc."
>However, I understood that BoG action was required to finalize this change.
>Does anyone know the current status?
>Also, I have just noticed two other references to trademarks in our
>published standards. Based on my understanding of the discussion, I suspect
>that some change is in order:
>(1) Near the end of the boilerplate page just before the "IEEE-SA Trademark
>Usage/Compliance Statement" is a paragraph in which "and/or trademarks"
>should, I think, be deleted:
> >The IEEE and its designees are the sole entities that may authorize the use
>of the IEEE-owned certification marks and/or trademarks to indicate
>compliance with the materials set forth herein.
>(2) Just before the Table of Contents is a paragraph that should, I think,
>be replaced by the new Trademark Statement I cited above:
> >The marks "IEEE" and "802" are registered trademarks belonging to the IEEE.
>When using these marks to refer to The Institute of Electrical and
>Electronics Engineers, 802 standards or other standards, the marks should be
>in bold typeface and, at least once in text, use the registered trademark
>symbol "(R)".
>Any ideas on how this will all be finalized?