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RE: [802SEC] followup to trademarks issue


My expectation that this sort of editorial cleanup for Standards otherwise 
unchanged would not be an editorial staff priority unless they were the 
recipients of nudging from folks heavier than we are.

I.e., hope, but don't hold your breath.


At 08:45 PM 7/15/02 +0100, Tony Jeffree wrote:

>I hope that the editorial staff plan to retrofit these changes to the 
>existing 802 standards that have been needlessly "mangled" by the prior 
>policy (Std 802 for example).
>At 11:55 15/07/2002 -0700, Grow, Bob wrote:
>>Implementation of editorial policy is in the hands of IEEE staff.  There is
>>one action item for IEEE counsel to research on derivative use that can
>>affect the policy.  It is my belief, and I believe the agreement from the
>>meeting, that editorial style should be adjusted as soon as possible, and
>>not delayed by the planned filing of "IEEE Std 802".  That could take some
>>time, and since the current stylized trademark labels and especially the
>>warnings do not decrease liability of the Institute current documents in
>>preparation for publication should be initially published under the new
>>agreed policy.
>>--Bob Grow
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Roger B. Marks []
>>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:41 AM
>>Subject: [802SEC] followup to trademarks issue
>>My understanding of our trademarks meeting of last Wednesday was that the
>>"IEEE-SA Trademark Usage/Compliance Statement" should be replaced (in
>>existing as well as in future standards) by:
>> >"Trademark Statement: The marks IEEE(R) and 802 (R)  are registered
>>trademarks of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc."
>>However, I understood that BoG action was required to finalize this change.
>>Does anyone know the current status?
>>Also, I have just noticed two other references to trademarks in our
>>published standards. Based on my understanding of the discussion, I suspect
>>that some change is in order:
>>(1) Near the end of the boilerplate page just before the "IEEE-SA Trademark
>>Usage/Compliance Statement" is a paragraph in which "and/or trademarks"
>>should, I think, be deleted:
>> >The IEEE and its designees are the sole entities that may authorize the use
>>of the IEEE-owned certification marks and/or trademarks to indicate
>>compliance with the materials set forth herein.
>>(2) Just before the Table of Contents is a paragraph that should, I think,
>>be replaced by the new Trademark Statement I cited above:
>> >The marks "IEEE" and "802" are registered trademarks belonging to the IEEE.
>>When using these marks to refer to The Institute of Electrical and
>>Electronics Engineers, 802 standards or other standards, the marks should be
>>in bold typeface and, at least once in text, use the registered trademark
>>symbol "(R)".
>>Any ideas on how this will all be finalized?