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RE: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees

Howard,  Be careful; the way you asked that questions folks were probably
thinking of something like a Maui meeting.  While folks might be willing to
go $150-175 for someplace really special, I doubt they would be willing to
do that for every meeting.  If you had asked what would be the average
amount you would choose to spend for a meeting hotel night you'd probably
get something closer to $100-125.  

No question, times are tougher now than they were just a couple of years ago
and they may get worse before they get better.  We need to tread lightly.  

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Frazier [] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:18 PM
To: IEEE 802 SEC
Cc:; 802info
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees


Of course, every one wants a FEEEEE Lunch.  Too bad
TANSTAAFL.  Now that I see that lunch is important,
I want to dive in to the question in greater depth.  The choices
you pose are all relevant.

I am hooked on this survey now.  I just tabulated the responses
to the question:

      The most I can justify for one night's hotel
      accomodations at a meeting is (US $, before taxes, choose one):

and, the survey says.......

$50        0     responses
$75        0
$100    10
$125    28
$150    61
$175    17
$200    25
$225    1
$250    3
n/a        2

Seems like anything around $150 is acceptable, (the average is
$156) which is interesting because I have recently gotten a bunch of emails
telling me that "corporate policy is no more than $100/night"

More results to come as the late precincts and absentee ballots are 

I expect everyone to take these results with a huge grain of salt. I ain't
gonna jump to no firmly held conclusions based on this survey.  I
just thought I would share.


Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:

>Howard,  Interesting numbers.  It will be fun to try and figure out exactly
>what they mean.  Here are some questions to ponder: 
>1.  Lunches run $15-20/person/day so you can swap the social for 1 day of
>lunch.  Do folks want to do that or are they pretty happy with the
>do-your-own cash lunch deals which we do now and you have the option to do
>restaurant instead ?
>2.  Are folks willing to ante up another $50 plus lose the social to get
>lunches all week (M-Th) ?  or $75 and keep the social ?  
>3.  Or do we do frugal lunches (e.g. box, salad bar, soup, etc.) for less ?
>Maybe there's a way to collect and tabulate further survey data as part of
>our web reg process so we can resolve some of these points to more clarity.
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98324-2207
>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard Frazier [] 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:13 PM
>To: IEEE 802 SEC
>Cc:; 802info
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
>Steve Carlson, Mike Takefman, Tony Jeffree, and I conducted a
>survey at our interim meetings in New Orleans.  A copy
>of the survey is attached.  I haven't had time to tabulate
>all of the responses yet, but this thread stimulated me to
>tabulate the responses to the question we asked about
>F&B.  The results for this question are also attached.  
>Please keep in mind that we explicitly stated that this survey
>applied only to our interim meetings, and that it was non-binding,
>but that we would use it to help us plan future interims.
> From the chart in meeting_survey.pdf, I conclude that:
>A) Continental breakfast, morning coffee service, lunch,
>and afternoon coffee service have overwhelming support.  Our
>members really want these services to be provided.
>B) Afternoon snacks have slightly positive but equivocal support.
>C) Hot breakfasts, dinner, and a mid-week social reception have
>much more opposition than support.  The first two seem obvious,
>but the third surprised me.  I won't, not even for a femtosecond,
>suggest that this result reflects what all of 802 would say about
>the Wednesday social during a plenary week, but I would suggest
>that maybe it's time we asked the question. Socials are certainly a
>large expense, and maybe we'd be better off redirecting the money
>towards lunch. I find that it makes us more productive if every one
>can stay near the meeting rooms for lunch, and get back to
>the meetings quickly. The members we surveyed seem to agree.
>Overall, I think the survey went over well.  From scanning
>the responses, it seems like people took it seriously, and
>gave it some careful thought.  I know that it will help us plan our
>next interim.