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Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees


The question was asked at our meeting in New Orleans,
where the hotel room charge was $149/night, before
tax. I also note that the recently concluded wireless
interim meeting in Monterey carried a room charge
of $154/night before tax (as I recall).  Thus, I think
that $150 is about the rate that people expect to pay.
It surely sits at a nice big spike in the data.

As I implied in my earlier messages, I'd love to
collect this data from a larger population.  I am
grinding away on the tabulation, and rather than
send out more intermediate reports, I will wait
until I have it all tabulated, and then share the
report with the SEC.  It's definitely more interesting
than the California gubernatorial race, which seems
to be a choice between hopeless and clueless.


Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:

>Howard,  Be careful; the way you asked that questions folks were probably
>thinking of something like a Maui meeting.  While folks might be willing to
>go $150-175 for someplace really special, I doubt they would be willing to
>do that for every meeting.  If you had asked what would be the average
>amount you would choose to spend for a meeting hotel night you'd probably
>get something closer to $100-125.  
>No question, times are tougher now than they were just a couple of years ago
>and they may get worse before they get better.  We need to tread lightly.  
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98324-2207
>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard Frazier [] 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:18 PM
>To: IEEE 802 SEC
>Cc:; 802info
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
>Of course, every one wants a FEEEEE Lunch.  Too bad
>TANSTAAFL.  Now that I see that lunch is important,
>I want to dive in to the question in greater depth.  The choices
>you pose are all relevant.
>I am hooked on this survey now.  I just tabulated the responses
>to the question:
>      The most I can justify for one night's hotel
>      accomodations at a meeting is (US $, before taxes, choose one):
>and, the survey says.......
>$50        0     responses
>$75        0
>$100    10
>$125    28
>$150    61
>$175    17
>$200    25
>$225    1
>$250    3
>n/a        2
>Seems like anything around $150 is acceptable, (the average is
>$156) which is interesting because I have recently gotten a bunch of emails
>telling me that "corporate policy is no more than $100/night"
>More results to come as the late precincts and absentee ballots are 
>I expect everyone to take these results with a huge grain of salt. I ain't
>gonna jump to no firmly held conclusions based on this survey.  I
>just thought I would share.
>Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>>Howard,  Interesting numbers.  It will be fun to try and figure out exactly
>>what they mean.  Here are some questions to ponder: 
>>1.  Lunches run $15-20/person/day so you can swap the social for 1 day of
>>lunch.  Do folks want to do that or are they pretty happy with the
>>do-your-own cash lunch deals which we do now and you have the option to do
>>restaurant instead ?
>>2.  Are folks willing to ante up another $50 plus lose the social to get
>>lunches all week (M-Th) ?  or $75 and keep the social ?  
>>3.  Or do we do frugal lunches (e.g. box, salad bar, soup, etc.) for less ?
>>Maybe there's a way to collect and tabulate further survey data as part of
>>our web reg process so we can resolve some of these points to more clarity.
>>Thanx,  Buzz
>>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>Boeing - SSG
>>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>Seattle, WA  98324-2207
>>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Howard Frazier [] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:13 PM
>>To: IEEE 802 SEC
>>Cc:; 802info
>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary registration fees
>>Steve Carlson, Mike Takefman, Tony Jeffree, and I conducted a
>>survey at our interim meetings in New Orleans.  A copy
>>of the survey is attached.  I haven't had time to tabulate
>>all of the responses yet, but this thread stimulated me to
>>tabulate the responses to the question we asked about
>>F&B.  The results for this question are also attached.  
>>Please keep in mind that we explicitly stated that this survey
>>applied only to our interim meetings, and that it was non-binding,
>>but that we would use it to help us plan future interims.
>>From the chart in meeting_survey.pdf, I conclude that:
>>A) Continental breakfast, morning coffee service, lunch,
>>and afternoon coffee service have overwhelming support.  Our
>>members really want these services to be provided.
>>B) Afternoon snacks have slightly positive but equivocal support.
>>C) Hot breakfasts, dinner, and a mid-week social reception have
>>much more opposition than support.  The first two seem obvious,
>>but the third surprised me.  I won't, not even for a femtosecond,
>>suggest that this result reflects what all of 802 would say about
>>the Wednesday social during a plenary week, but I would suggest
>>that maybe it's time we asked the question. Socials are certainly a
>>large expense, and maybe we'd be better off redirecting the money
>>towards lunch. I find that it makes us more productive if every one
>>can stay near the meeting rooms for lunch, and get back to
>>the meetings quickly. The members we surveyed seem to agree.
>>Overall, I think the survey went over well.  From scanning
>>the responses, it seems like people took it seriously, and
>>gave it some careful thought.  I know that it will help us plan our
>>next interim.