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[802SEC] Re: Issue regarding description of IEEE P802 drafts in IEEE Store

Hello All:

Please see the e-mail below and if you are experiencing the same
difficulty, please contact Markus Plessel ( with the
right description you want to appear in the drafts available for sale
through our catalog.

Also, please remember that when the drafts go to Sponsor Ballot, they DO
NOT automatically go to our catalog for sale UNLESS the WGC requests so.
Therefore, every time you want to make drafts available for sale through
our catalog, the WGC needs to send an e-mail to Michelle Turner
( and cc me on it.

David Law:  Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Any questions, please let me know!

Angela Ortiz
Program Manager - Technical Program Development
IEEE Standards, 445 Hoes Lane,
Piscataway, NJ  08855-1331 USA
Telephone: 1732-562-3809  ><  Fax: 1732-562-1571
E-m:   ><

                    Markus Plessel                                                                                 
                                         To:     Angela Ortiz/STDS/STAFF/US/IEEE@IEEE                              
                    11/20/2002           cc:     Esaleta Yearwood/STDS/STAFF/US/IEEE@IEEE, Jerome                  
                    04:39 PM             Walker/STDS/STAFF/US/IEEE@IEEE, Karen Mc Cabe/STDS/STAFF/US/IEEE@IEEE     
                                         Subject:     Re: Issue regarding description of IEEE P802.3af draft in    
                                         IEEE Store(Document link: Angela Ortiz)                                   

Hello Angela,

Please have them provide the correct descriptions from now on.  Currently,
I have been using the abstracts from the PDFs for all draft and published

Best Regards,

Markus Plessel
IEEE Standards Activities
445 Hoes Lane
Piscataway, NJ 08854
+1 732 562 3989
David law wrote:

Angela Ortiz, our IEEE Standards Staff Liaison, suggested I contact you
about a
problem we have been having with the IEEE Store. The issue we have had is
the description provided for the IEEE P802.3af draft by the IEEE Store web
has been incorrect. We have on occasion pointed this out but it seems each
a new draft is posted the description reverts to the old version.

This issue seems to be caused by the fact that this IEEE P802.3 project, as
do most of our projects, modifies existing text in the Standard including
Scope of one of the existing Clauses. The Management Clause contained in
30 of IEEE Std. 802.3 is a case in point. As we add new features to the
through our projects the Management Clause is modified to include support
these new features therefore the Scope of the Management Clause is changed
resulting in the Management Scope text having to be updated. Since we
the modified Clauses in the draft prior to the New Clauses, as the modified
Clauses have the lower Clause numbers, the first Scope clause found in the
P802.3af draft, as with many other drafts, is a modified Scope statement
to Management.

I believe the above results in the problem we have encountered with the
Store where the first Scope text that is found in the draft, in this case
Scope of the Management Clause, is used as the description of the draft
as I hope can been seen, is very misleading. Is there some way therefore
that we
can supply the description of the draft that will be used by the IEEE Store
in a
way that it will not be changed each time we publish a new draft. I guess
basic way would be for us to provide the description ever time but I am
concerned that may be an error prone approach.

Thanks very much,
   David Law