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RE: [802SEC] RE: 2005 Meeting of 802 and IEEE-SASB

Howard,  I appreciate your guidance on this matter and I think you are correct that we now have an excellent opportunity for co-located complementary meetings, especially if you are an active advocate for it at the June meeting.   :-)  

We will proceed with the game plan to secure a joint venue for March 13-18, 2003 and have a formal proposal ready in time for the June Stds Bd meeting.  I'll leave it to you to handle ensuring that if they decide to pass on our proposal, that they will instead schedule their session for the week following so the timing works out properly for both groups.  Are we agreed on this approach ???  

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
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-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Frazier [] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:40 AM
To:; 802 Exec
Subject: Re: [802SEC] RE: 2005 Meeting of 802 and IEEE-SASB

Buzz, et al,

The sequence of the IEEE 802 LMSC and IEEE-SA StB meetings in the month
of March is of critical importance to the work of both committees.  802 must
go first, followed by the StB.  We frequently have numerous agenda items 
must first be approved by 802, and then by the StB and its committees. 
of PARs and draft submittals for NesCom and RevCom, respectively.  We
frequently pre-submit such items for inclusion on the respective StB 
committee agendas,
and then vote in the LMSC WGs and at the SEC to keep them on the agenda.

If the StB were to hold its March meeting before the SEC, we would lose our
best opportunity for rapid progress, and incure a 6 month slip on some 
of our

Thus, we must ensure that the IEEE 802 LMSC always holds its meetings
before the IEEE-SA StB during the month of March, in every year. With 
that provision
taken as a given, I am strongly in favor of co-locating our March 
meetings whenever
practical, and I will continue to support this proposition in both 

I strongly support Rona's most recent proposal to co-locate the meetings in
March, 2005, with the StB meeting on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at the
end of the week. The conflict between the 802 LMSC meetings and the
StB committee meetings is minimized with such a schedule, while achieving
the maximum benefit from sequential, co-located meetings.

I also know that the StB can be very flexible in selecting the dates for 
particular meeting.  March is usually the lightest month for the StB's 
and the time span between the preceeding December StB meeting and the
March StB meeting is typically the longest. Thus, just about any week in
March works for the StB.

Finally, as Rona stated, the StB would like to review and approve the 
for the 2005 meetings during its next meeting on June 12, 2003. 
 Anything that
we in the LMSC can do to create a formal proposal in time for this 
meeting would
be very helpful.

Howard Frazier
Vice-Chair, IEEE-SA StB

Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:

>Rona,  Actually, we've been holding off making a firm commitment on dates and place to see if the Stds Board wants join us or not.  
>Our normally scheduled dates would be March 13-18, 2005 and we have several proposals for those dates from various large properties.  We also have a proposal for the week of March 20-25, 2005 from the Hyatt Regency Atlanta, just in case the Stds Board decides they must stay with the week of March 13-18 but are not willing/able to join our meeting on a complementary schedule that does not overlap our meeting schedule significantly (e.g. Fri-Sun).  
>We really would like to co-locate with the Stds Board if possible, but if this is not do-able, we need to know what options/flexibility the Stds Board is willing to accept to avoid conflicts.  For example, would they be willing to meet during the week of March 20-25 so we avoid the possible overlap ???  
>We are holding off making a firm commitment for March 2005 in hopes we can find a mutually agreeable resolution, but we need to act quickly since large hotel deals for < 2 years out tend to be highly volatile, and we risk having to start over with much lesser selections.  
>Please let us know where you are with this process, ASAP.   :-)  
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:20 AM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O
>Subject: 2005 Meeting of 802 and IEEE-SASB
>Hi Buzz:
>Can you please provide the exact dates for the March 2005 802 meeting,
>including the location.
>Thank you,
>Rona I. Gertz
>Manager, IEEE-SA Governance
>IEEE Standards Activities
>+1 732 562 3808 (phone); +1 732 562 1571 (fax)
>IEEE Standards web site: