Re: [802SEC] Fwd: Gleaned from another group
Whether or not one worries about Robert's Rules vs.
whether one takes votes in a WG meeting are two entirely different
At 06:26 PM 8/14/2003 +0100, Tony Jeffree wrote:
Absolutely. This is exactly why we don't take
votes in 802.1 WG meetings.
At 09:35 11/08/2003 -0700, Geoff Thompson wrote:
Just saw this go by in a different (different fro what you may ask??)
It reminded me that the true power for putting forth successful standards
is that they are consensus standards, not just that we can get material
through the system.
(Emphasis below is added by me.)
From: "Lowell Johnson"
To: "'Donald Heirman'" <email@example.com>,
Subject: RE: pro-vote Voting task force from ProCom
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:16:55 -0500
Don and others;
I think Don's comments are really leading up to a very simple
you can't legislate common sense, which is basically what the
process is. I have often told people that if they are
Robert's Rules, or any other sort of artificial control, they
do not have consensus yet.
Perhaps it would be easier to control what they should not do.
I personally think this would also be just as murky as Don
Maybe the best we (as IEEE) can do is require adherence to rigid
of openness and due process, then streamline the process for appeals
deal with the simple issues quickly.
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