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RE: [802SEC] RE: Florida Tax on LANs

This is absurd. I've pinged my folks at the theme parks (who pay huge taxes and account for a good deal of Florida's revenue) about it.
Only politicians could think something like this up...
-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: Florida Tax on LANs

What an accounting nightmare. Do you have to count the structured wiring as part of network cost? What part of a laptop cost is allocated to the LAN cost? What about DTE powered guitars and all those network attached lights and such at Disney World? The rules that would have to be generated are scary.
If a letter was going to be sent, it would be reasonable to point out that "cost of a network" especially for LANs is not a defined thing and there would be much more than a financial burden placed on businesses to comply. Such a rule could have a chilling effect on businesses at a time when they are already struggling.
Now maybe a tax on credit cards would make people think before got a bunch and ran up debts they can't handle. Only problem is now the IRS lets you charge the taxes (for a fee).
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson []
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Grow, Bob
Cc: Rigsbee, Everett O; Geoff Thompson;; Richard Brand;;; 802 Exec
Subject: [802SEC] RE: Florida Tax on LANs


Sounds good to me.

Should such discriminatory tax still be under consideration by the state of Florida when we convene in November, I would be happy to 2nd a motion to cancel scheduled 802 meetings in Florida and to send an appropriate advisory letter with copies to the Florida state chamber of commerce, the governor and the officers of the legislature.

Buzz, please advise of the financial implications.
(No, I do not want to spend March at DFW or in Albuquerque.)

BTW speaking of taxes, when I was in Ireland I was told by our landlady at a B&B that the Irish government taxes citizens 40 Euros/year for each credit card they hold.


At 05:01 PM 10/8/2003 -0700, Grow, Bob wrote:

When I saw this I though fantastic, an alternative to a mariachi band.  The seemingly obligatory mariachi band in Albuquerque is for me almost as bad as the hotel room challenges.


As long as I am dumping on meeting locations, please note the following relevant to March/Florida, how about an 802 led boycott of Florida?


By Jeff Caruso
Network World High Speed LANs Newsletter, 09/02/03

The state of Florida is mulling a rule that could result in taxation of computer networks - both WAN and LAN.

The rule is taking businesses by surprise, according to a story in the Orlando Business Journal:

The article says the state would tax networks 9.17%, and local districts could add their own tax to it. What exactly would be taxed? Either the lease payments or annual depreciation of network equipment, according to the article.


--Bob Grow




-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O []
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:32 PM
To: Geoff Thompson
Cc: Grow, Bob;;;;; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Music at the Albuquerque Social


Geoff,  Does this mean we need to find a WiFi guitar to present a balanced program ???     :-)  


Anyone for WiFi mariachi's ???



Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson []
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:20 PM
Cc:;;;;; Rigsbee, Everett O;
Subject: Music at the Albuquerque Social

Enjoyed talking at lunch today.

Thanks a lot for your offer to provide live music and a demo of the Gibson Ethernet Guitar at the 802 Social. 
The folks to actually discuss the offer with are the meeting and therefore the Social planners who are:
Dawn C. Slykhouse, IEEE 802 Conference Organizer
Face To Face Events, Inc.
2699 Iversen Court
Santa Clara, CA. 95051
Tel: 408/241-8906
Fax: 408/241-8918
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Executive Secretary, IEEE 802
C/o Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721

Dawn is the professional meeting planner who actually runs the plenaries. She is local.
Buzz is the Executive secretary of IEEE 802 and overseeing meeting arrangements is his job.

I'm not just sure how they divide up duties on planning for the entertainment at the social, but I suggest that you call Dawn as a first point of contact.

I hope to see you again soon,

Best regards,

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