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[802SEC] RE: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB proposal




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-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB
proposal
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:28:25 +0200
From: "Gadi Shor" <Gadi.Shor@wisair.com>
To: "McInnis, Michael D" <michael.d.mcinnis@boeing.com>,
        "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@agere.com>,
        <Jack.Pardee@innov8rs.biz>, <stds-802-15-tg3a@ieee.org>,
        <stds-802.15@ieee.org>, <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>


Mike,
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It seems you have missed my point completely. I suggest anyone who want
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UWB to succeed to be very careful in the way it approach ITU activities.
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The opposition in ITU-R TG-1/8 does not care about the type of UWB =
signal. They do not want to see any UWB signal in their bands.
Again, I suggest 802.15.3a(both sides)/802.18 should put joint effort to
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support UWB in ITU-R TG-1/8.
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Yours,
Gadi
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-----Original Message-----
From: McInnis, Michael D [mailto:michael.d.mcinnis@boeing.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:27 AM
To: Gadi Shor; Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); Jack.Pardee@innov8rs.biz; =
stds-802-15-tg3a@ieee.org; stds-802.15@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB
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proposal


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Recent comments released to the press from ITU-R TG-1/8 attendees, =
including both Carl and Gadi remarks about "a LOT of "push-back" against
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UWB in the ITU-R " as Carl put it, should make every voter think twice =
about his/her voting this week.
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Is your vote for a particular UWB proposal one which IEEE 802.15.3 can =
stand behind and defend at the FCC, NTIA, NIST, and other special =
interest group testing labs,  (performance, rules compliance, and least
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impact or interferrence to other services within the UWB band come to =
mind), and with wireless standards bodies outside the U.S.?
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Please choose wisely this week.
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Sincerely,
Mike McInnis
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 -----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Shor [mailto:Gadi.Shor@wisair.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:59 PM
To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); Jack.Pardee@innov8rs.biz; =
stds-802-15-tg3a@ieee.org; stds-802.15@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB
=
proposal



Hi,
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I was at the ITU-R TG-1/8 meeting and the last thing the participants =
cared about was the UWB signal type.
I would have to agree that 'pure fiction' is an EXTREMELY polite and =
diplomatic way to relate to this article.
If anything the 802.15.3a(both sides)/802.18 should put some joint =
effort to support UWB in ITU-R TG-1/8 since right now the opposition is
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huge to any type of UWB (and they are not talking about some extra dBs =
but rather some extra tens of dBs)
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Yours,
Gadi Shor
Wisair, CTO
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [mailto:carlstevenson@agere.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:26 AM
To: Jack.Pardee@innov8rs.biz; stds-802-15-tg3a@ieee.org; =
stds-802.15@ieee.org; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB
=
proposal


I hate to be blunt, but I was at the ITU-R TG-1/8 meeting in Geneva
the week before last, and the story below is pure fiction, and I am
being EXTREMELY polite and diplomatic in my choice of terminology.
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The fact of the matter is that there is a LOT of "push-back" against
UWB in the ITU-R, with virtually ALL of the services with allocations
and entitlement to protection from interference from UWB and who
would be overlaid by UWB (as well as a number of Administrations)
presenting papers that show that the current limits for UWB are rather
grossly inadequate to provide the degree of protection to which they are
entitled (in many cases by the ITU Radio Regulations or existing ITU-R
Recommendations).
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Once again, I find this sort of posturing in the trade press in an =
effort to
"make hay" in the 802.15.3a process to be reprehensible.
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Carl R. Stevenson=20
Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Pardee [mailto:Jack.Pardee@innov8rs.biz]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:29 PM
To: stds-802-15-tg3a@ieee.org
Subject: <802.15.3a> ITU said to endorse Motorola-XtremeSpectrum UWB =
proposal


URL - http://www.commsdesign.com/news/OEG20031110S0085
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By Patrick Mannion <mailto:pmannion@cmp.com> =09
EE  <http://www.eetimes.com/> Times
November 10, 2003 (5:50 p.m. EST) 	 =
<http://www.commsdesign.com/printableArticle?doc_id=3DOEG20031110S0085>
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MANHASSET, N.Y. - The International Telecommunications Union's radio =
branch will likely endorse the XtremeSpectrum/Motorola direct-sequence =
CDMA ultrawideband proposal now before the IEEE 802.15.3a study group.
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Jack Pardee
Managing Director=20

Innov8rs LLC
9135 West Manitoba St. #2
Milwaukee, WI 53227-3666
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