Re: [802SEC] Five day approval process
Dear EC,
I have seen the email traffic on this thread, but I've been tied up with
Standards Board work the past two days and through today.
I need to carefully review the email thread and will try to talk with Mike
either later today or tomorrow before weighing in on the matter.
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Lynch" <mjlynch@NORTEL.COM>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Five day approval process
> Carl,
>
> I will consult with the voting members present here in Geneva.
>
> What you are saying, and what your supporters are saying, make it
> impossible for 802.18 to function as was proposed for this meeting -
> unless it is simply as an observer group unable to do any real work.
> That would seem to limit the TAG to complying with the wireless interim
> schedule. When will that meeting ever be in Geneva?
>
> There are those here that remember an enabling motion being used so that
> a quorum wasn't needed in 802.18 interim meetings. The voting members
> will meet to both review collective memory and discuss this tomorrow.
> Frankly what you say here doesn't seem to fit the collective memory at
> this time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> +1 972 814 4901
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 18:38
> To: Lynch, Michael [RICH1:2H50:EXCH]; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>
>
> Mike,
>
> We did not previously authorize "doing official business without a
> quorum." There were times when we went ahead and drafted documents
> during an interim without a quorum present, but they were followed up
> with a conf call meeting to do the approval. There were also times when
> we had a conf call meeting to deal with work that couldn't be completed
> during an interim in order to meet filing deadlines.
>
> There are provisions in the TAG P&P and the TAG section of the 802 P&P
> that allow meetings between interims via conference call, with 5 day
> minumum notice, but a quorum is still required for those meetings to
> take official action.
>
> Also, anything from .18 that's to "go outside" needs 75% approval, with
> a quorum present, then must pass the 5 day EC review.
>
> That is the proceedure that was followed during my tenure as Chair of
> .18.
>
> I don't believe that it's possible to bypass the quorum requirements of
> the 802.18 P&P, let alone the quorum requirements of of the 802 P&P via
> a TAG motion.
>
> This is a question of process, not a question of content from my
> perspective.
>
> Regards,
> Carl
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Lynch [mailto:mjlynch@nortel.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:18 PM
>> To: wk3c@wk3c.com; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Carl,
>>
>> We did as you previously did - we had an enabling motion at the July
>> Plenary to allow work in this meeting. All those here felt that was
>> sufficient. If that does not satisfy you please advise how this is
>> different on how you conducted .18 business at an interim.
>>
>> The document was approved by all. Our two new participants,
>> representing
>> Qualcomm, contributed and did not seem to have any issues.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 09:42
>> To: Lynch, Michael [RICH1:2H50:EXCH]; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Do you have a quorum in Geneva?
>>
>> If so, was this document approved by 75% of the members, per the P&P?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Carl
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Michael Lynch [mailto:mjlynch@NORTEL.COM]
>> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:03 AM
>> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>> > Subject: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>> >
>> > Please find enclosed 802.18's comments in response to the European
>> > Commission 2.6 GHz consultation. The comment period closes 15
>> > September but the membership believes it is beneficial to file a
>> > response. This was approved by unanimous consent.
>> > I would like to be able to forward this the European
>> Commission on 25
>> > September.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > +1 972 814 4901
>> >
>> > <<18-05-0033-r0-0000-EC_2.6GHz_Band_Consultation Response.doc>>
>> >
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