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Re: [802SEC] Meeting site approval by the EC



Bob,

You raise a very good question ... contracts should not be being signed for
venues without EC approval.  That they apparently are/have been is rather
outrageous, if true.

I also find it unsurprising that your other e-mail indicates that meeting
planners you have contacted indicate that arranging suitable nNA venues
(even as soon as March 09) is not at all out of the question.

This prompts me to want to push my motion that we not allow further NA
contracts to be signed until we have met our nNA objectives.  (simply
holding a single slot for nNA in a year isn't the optimum way to get nNA
venues in my view ... we should find/schedule/contract the nNA venue(s)
first to have the maximum flexibility and *then* book the NA venue(s).
Otherwise, I believe we'll keep finding our calendar filled for years to
come with NA venues and no opportunity for nNA plenaries.

Regards,
Carl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of 
> Bob O'Hara (boohara)
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:11 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [802SEC] Meeting site approval by the EC
> 
> I have now had the chance to review the minutes of the EC 
> since 2005.  I
> guess I had a good reason for not recalling that I had 
> approved a motion
> to select specific venues for our plenary meetings.  In the 
> three years
> that I have reviewed the minutes, 2005 through 2007, the EC has NEVER
> explicitly approved a site for our plenary sessions.
> 
> Let me repeat that, the EC has never approved a site for our plenary
> sessions in the last three years.  Yet, the EC is entering contracts
> (through the IEEE) without explicit approval.
> 
> The only items in the minutes that I have found are the following:
> 
> Item 10.05 on Friday, July 21, 2006, where the EC approved 
> the extension
> of the F2F contract.  In this extension, we implicitly 
> approved meeting
> venues from 11/2006 through 7/2007.
> 
> Item 10.04 on Friday, March 16/2007, where a straw poll was conducted
> among sites for the March 2008 plenary.
> 
> Item 10.02 on Friday, July 20, 2007, where a straw poll was conducted
> among sites for the March 2008 plenary.
> 
> So, how has the EC entered into contracts with venues for our plenary
> sessions through 2012, including sites that specifically violate our
> decision to hold one plenary session each year outside of 
> North America,
> i.e, 2009 and 2010?  Isn't a contract one of the things the 
> EC should be
> reviewing and approving?
> 
> I think that there needs to be much more transparency in this process
> and that the EC needs to be much more closely involved.  The selection
> of a site and the approval of the contracts cannot be allowed 
> to be done
> outside of public view.
> 
>  -Bob
> 
> Bob O'Hara
> Cisco Systems - WNBU
> 
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