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Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Exec Secretary March T&L Funding



I'm voting approve.

I understand and sympathize with the reservations that have been stated. However, I think that it is in the best interests of IEEE 802 to have continuity for this meeting. I think not doing so risks having higher meeting costs. 

Yes, a transition plan should have been worked out earlier in the game and it wasn't, but we are here now and need to deal with the situation as it exists.

There was a letter of support but that was a statement of intent, not a contract that we can enforce. Many of us work under "at will" employment rather than under contract and the employer or employee can terminate the employment at any time. The letters of support in that case tend to get abandoned when employment changes and we have had more than one EC transition over time that occurred mid-term due to a change in employment. 

We are protected by limiting our expenditure and I'm satisfied by John's statement that he will use the IEEE Standards staff travel policy to guide what is reasonable and customary.

I agree with David that the opening phrase should have stated "without creating precedent" to be clear about its meaning. However I'm not sure that it is possible to do something without creating a precedent - certainly the funding of Arnie came up during discussion of this even though it was also suppose to be without creating a precedent. Long ago we had one other case where we provided support - when the 802.2 chair lost his funding and needed help for a couple of meetings. I think it was done back then by providing comp'ed air and hotel rather than by paying expenses. I don't recall if that motion said it was without creating a precedent or not. 

On the other hand, I do not feel comfortable continuing this arrangement for more than a meeting or two. There are others who pay their own way without an employer.

Regards, 
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:20 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Exec Secretary March T&L Funding

Folks,

Paul has authorized the following motion for your consideration. Based
on our previous discussion on the topic, this is what  I think can get
us an answer to this question to cover the next meeting.  Much more
discussion will follow in Orlando on the longer term solution. For
now, please vote your preference one way or the other.

 Motion:
Without precedent, the EC approves the use of IEEE 802 resources for
reimbursement of  reasonable and customary expenses for Buzz Rigsbee,
such that he may continue to execute his duties as the IEEE 802
Executive Secretary, for the March 2010 plenary. Such reimbursement
will be not to exceed $1,000

 Moved:  John Hawkins
 Seconded: Steve Shellhammer

Start of ballot: Tuesday 27th January, 2010
Close of ballot: Saturday 6th February, 2010, 11:59PM EDT

Early close: As required in subclause 3.1.2.2 'Electronic Balloting of
the IEEE project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations
Manual, this is notice that this ballot may close early once
sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter.

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