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Thank you to all those that have participated in this discussion.
The assertion was made that remote meetings make it difficult for new people to get involved in the existing activities. There was quite a lot of support for this position, although at least one counter example was provided by Clint Chaplin. Clint’s counter example may be an outlier because Clint has the sort of personality that allows him to overcome these sorts of barriers. Many people are not blessed with such bravery! 😉
My personal view is that it is almost always difficult for a new person to join an existing activity, whether meetings are held F2F or remotely. That said, it probably is easier when everyone is F2F because it is easier for the new person to identify and approach the existing leads for one on one introductions and discussions. it is also easier for the existing leads to spot and approach new participants for one on one introductions and discussions, usually after the new participant has established credibility via a valuable submission or an insightful comment/question.
However, I would like to challenge everyone to think beyond our preconceptions of the future that are extrapolated from experiences of the past. Imagine that we were forced to operate in remote mode forever (I hope this is not the case). What would you do to make it easier for new people to get involved in the existing activities?
Let me start off with some ideas. In my view, the fundamental problem with remote meetings (compared to F2F) is that it is more difficult to identify, contact and communicate with other stakeholders. In a F2F meeting, you can see the person in the meeting, trap the person in the coffee area (or by the bar) and speak to them personally. In remote meetings, they are a name and affiliation that flies past, with no face and a disembowelled voice. In addition, there is no equivalent to trapping them in the coffee area or bar.
I suspect there are a whole range of things we could do to improve this situation:
Would anyone like to volunteer a submission of their suggestions/thoughts for discussion at a teleconference before Christmas?
PS There is a similar set of issues that arise when existing and new participants start a new project in a remote only mode. In this case, there is even less sense of existing. Feel free to comment on this situation too.
I can only offer up a counterexample here...
When I started in IEEE 802, I was attending 802.11i teleconferences; I had never attended an in-person meeting. I was attending teleconferences for about four months before I was allowed to attend an in-person meeting by my company. The teleconference participants accepted my input and took my input the same way as any other long term participant.
I still remember attending my first in-person meeting and sitting in the back. When I spoke up for the first time, everybody turned around to see who it was; they recognized the voice but had not seen me before.
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