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RE: Possibility for low cost voltage setting



There should be at least two pieces of information that need communicating: (a) voltage level and (b) maximum current limit.  If you are able to use a 100W power adapter with a 15W load and something goes wrong where the load tries to draw more than 15W, it would be a very good idea if the power adapter is smart enough to know that the load is not rated to accept the higher current/power and refuse to provide more power than the load is rated to accept.  Given that at least 2 pieces of information need to be communicated between load and power adapter (voltage and maximum output power,) an analog circuit may not be simpler or lower cost than a digital processor.

 

Only one controller is all that is needed (not two), as long as the proper isolation circuitry is in place for both primary and secondary control.

 

I agree that we should consider all good options at this point for analog and digital communications.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Panepinto

 

From: upamd@xxxxxxxx [mailto:upamd@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LEI / Rene Koch
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:04 AM
To: 'UPAMD'
Subject: Possibility for low cost voltage setting

 


I would still like to propose to keep the possibility open for simple low-cost solutions.
Which means for example a simple analogue level of the communications connection in order to set the required voltage of the load; any digital signal on that communications connection would overrule the analogue signal. This will of course not be possible if we choose to use a communication scheme over the power lines.

General power adapters have a controller on the primary side, which uses a feedback signal from the secondary (DC) side to adjust its operation level. Mandating digital communications on the secondary side would mean an additional controller on this secondary side, with additional requirements of operating voltage (supplied by the adapter itself) and control components.
I believe the impact of this is just too large for general manufacturers to justify; unless the requirements become mandatory by governments.
(+70% cost for a 20W adapter; +40% for a 60W and about 25% for a 100W adapter)

Since I do not believe that standard commodity products will come available with a double power connection, I believe this has a major impact to the success of the UPAMD.
This will also allow for a transition period, where mobile device manufacturers will learn to appreciate our efforts and where costs of cabling and connectors will be reduced due to large scale usage.

It does not have to interfere with or restrain anything that we are trying to achieve; it can just be an additional requirement.

Best regards,
Rene