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RE: IEEE p2030.1



Hello:

At first glance, it looks to me that these protocols are designed for a much
different type of communication, some even over a long distance (substation
to home energy management system.)  Other aspects of these protocols appear
to deal with mapping between a variety of different protocols.  For
point-to-point communication between sink and external power supply (EPS), a
simple protocol is desirable.  At the higher layers of the protocol, it
seems to me that the kind of messages/services needed for power adapter and
sink would be different than those proposed by a broad Smart Grid protocol.

I wasn't able to find details.  Has anyone been able to map between the
message requests in the IEC protocols to the messages being proposed by
UPAMD for communication?  My guess is that would show the IEC protocols to
have many messages not applicable to EPS to sink communication and it will
likely be lacking some messages UPAMD will find desirable.  But, the
exercise would be good to do.

Best regards,
 
Paul
(970) 461-3077
Skype: ppanepinto
Green Plug - Digital Power


-----Original Message-----
From: upamd@xxxxxxxx [mailto:upamd@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Davis
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:11 PM
To: 'Piotr Karocki'; 'upamd@xxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: IEEE p2030.1

UPAMD,

Can someone look into the NIST Smart Grid Foundational Standards
http://www.nist.gov/smartgrid/grid_20101013.cfm particularly IEC 61970 and
IEC 61968.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: upamd@xxxxxxxx [mailto:upamd@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Piotr Karocki
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:40 AM
To: upamd@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: IEEE p2030.1

It would be nice (having a look into 1547).
As I understand it, there is some communication (why not use it in
UPAMD?)... and someone already thought about what we are thinking now...

________________________________________
From: Bob Davis [bobd@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:13 PM
To: Piotr Karocki; 'upamd@xxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: IEEE p2030.1

Piotr,

Can you make some suggestions?

1547 is the standard that contains the islanding provisions such as are used
in the solar panels that are on my roof.

I can certainly see where more understanding is needed on how these will
interact with P1823/UPAMD.

I can request a copy for our use if needed.

Very good thinking.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: upamd@xxxxxxxx [mailto:upamd@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Piotr Karocki
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:31 AM
To: upamd@xxxxxxxx
Subject: IEEE p2030.1

What about "synchronizing" UPAMD with 2030.1?
December issue of The Institute brings info about some standards related to
power grid.
2030.1 is about communication between (electric) car and grid.
Also IEEE 1547 interconnecting distributed power-system resources (our case:
wall plug, battery, and similar connections)