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[802SEC] FW: Fwd: IEEE 802.11 SNMP MIB?

This is the response I sent to Tom Kurihara on his question as to whether
there are SNMPv2 MIBs being defined in 802.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob O'Hara []
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 5:26 PM
To: 'T. M. Kurihara'
Cc: ''; ''; 'Tim Godfrey'
Subject: RE: Fwd: IEEE 802.11 SNMP MIB?


There are SNMPv2 MIBs being defined (and have been defined) in 802 LMSC
standards.  Here is an excerpt from an email from Tony Jeffree (chair of

"There are some words in the current text of the 802 overview & architecture
on management; it mentions both OSI management & SNMP as possible
approaches. There are also some words in 802.1F on how to define MIBs and
on commonly applicable object definitions; however, 802.1F is largely aimed
at the OSI type of MIB (and is probably overdue for a revision).

There are examples of both types of MIBs (OSI & SNMP)in various 802
standards. 802.1 has lately taken the view that (at least for new standards
it develops) it is appropriate to define an SNMP MIB; 802.3 continues to
develop OSI MIBs, but there are examples (for instance, Link Aggregation)
where 802.3 includes an SNMP MIB as well. So the short answer is that it is
up to you as to which style you use - my guess is that SNMP is the
predominant mechanism used in your marketplace (as it is for LANs in

I hope this is helpful.


Bob O'Hara
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-----Original Message-----
From: T. M. Kurihara []
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Tim Godfrey
Cc:;; Bob O'Hara
Subject: Re: Fwd: IEEE 802.11 SNMP MIB?

Tim, thank you for the quick response and establishing contact with the
802.11 editor.  My appreciation and thanks to Bob O'Hara in advance for his
advice and help. \\TomK//

At 19:15 7/3/01, Tim Godfrey wrote:
>Tom and Bob,
>The 1997 version of 802.11 specified the MIB according to OSI rules, but
>Annex D was removed prior to paper publication. Subsequent versions of
>802.11 (802.11-1999 and supplements) are according to SNMP.  So the short
>answer to your question is yes.
>I have CC'd your question to Bob O'Hara, who is a member of the 802
>executive committee and the editor of the 802.11 standard. He is an expert
>on the 802.11 MIB and higher level 802 architecture, and will be able to
>provide a more detailed explanation and history.
>At 17:33 7/3/2001, T. M. Kurihara wrote:
>>Tim, Bob DeRoche has asked for an authoritative response to his
>>observation and question.  Could you respond or make arrangements to have
>>a response for Bob?  Thank you very much for your assistance.  \\TomK//
>>>From: Robert DeRoche <>
>>>To: "Thomas Kurihara (E-mail)" <>
>>>Cc: "NTCIP Profiles WG (E-mail)" <>
>>>Subject: IEEE 802.11 SNMP MIB?
>>>Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:09:23 -0400
>>>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>>>I was researching how property, value domain, and generic property domain
>>>are expressed in other industries and ran across the following file:
>>>pdf. This is a supplement to IEEE 802.11.
>>>On document page 57, it describes changes to the "SNMPv2"  MIB that
>>>in IEEE 802.11!!!  Are the IEEE 802 WGs now defining MIBs in the SNMP
>>>This is a very important issue in regard to a number of NTCIP Standards
>>>I would appreciate an authoritative answer.
>>>Bob De Roche
>    Tim Godfrey at Intersil
>    Ph 913-706-3777   Fax 913-664-2545

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