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RE: [802SEC] Ethernet Retrospective for July Plenary <>

Roger,  What Rich Seifert fails to note is that San Francisco has been highly sought after as an 802 venue for the 20 years I've been doing these meetings, but that until the 9/11 debacle it was consistently too expensive to ever get selected as a venue ( >>$200/night).  Parking a rental car in SF costs more than renting the car in the first place.  So thanx to the 9/11 travel industry collapse, we finally got to an affordable (just barely) deal for two SF meetings.  

Thanx,  Buzz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Ethernet Retrospective for July Plenary <>

Here is a relevant and entertaining factoid from Rich Seifert's "The 
Switch Book: The Complete Guide to LAN Switching Technology":
    [Great book, by the way]:

"In February 1980, a meeting was held at the Jack Tar Hotel in San 
Francisco, California, to discuss the development of an industry 
standard for Local Area Networks. That meeting (and many others 
subsequent to it) spawned the creation of IEEE Project 802, one of 
the largest and longest-running activities within the IEEE standards 

  I was at that meeting. The Jack Tar Hotel no longer exists (the 
Cathedral Hill Hotel is now located at the same site), but the IEEE 
802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee does. Interestingly, although much of 
the constituency of the IEEE 802 committee comes from Northern 
California (Silicon Valley), that first meeting was the only time 
that a full IEEE 802 (plenary) session was held anywhere in the San 
Francisco Bay Area. It's much more fun to travel to Maui, Montreal, 
New Orleans, and the like than to stay at home and work."


>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: 
>[] On Behalf Of Paul 
>     Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:25 AM
>     To: IEEE802
>     Subject: [802SEC] Tutorial slot reservation for July Plenary
>     Dear SEC,
>     I wish to reserve the July 22 8PM-9:30PM Tutorial Slot for an 
>"Ethernet Retrospective".
>     It turns out 2003 is the 30th anniversary of Ethernet, and Bob 
>Metcalfe will be in San Francisco the week of the July Plenary 
>Session and would be available to be a speaker at this session. 
>Geoff Thompson has agreed to speak, and Geoff and I will try to get 
>two more Ethernet 'old-timers' to give their perspective as well.
>     More details to come.
>     Regards,
>     --Paul Nikolich
>     Chairman, IEEE 802