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RE: [802SEC] Ethernet Retrospective for July Plenary <>

At 16:31 02/07/2003 -0700, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:

>Roger,  What Rich Seifert fails to note is that San Francisco has been 
>highly sought after as an 802 venue for the 20 years I've been doing these 
>meetings, but that until the 9/11 debacle it was consistently too 
>expensive to ever get selected as a venue ( >>$200/night).

Cheaper than Hawaii, then, Buzz? ;-)

>   Parking a rental car in SF costs more than renting the car in the first 
> place.

The counter is of course, that with all necessary meeting facilities (i.e., 
great restaurants,...etc) close to hand, having a rental car in SF is 
pointless anyway.


>So thanx to the 9/11 travel industry collapse, we finally got to an 
>affordable (just barely) deal for two SF meetings.
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger B. Marks []
>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:13 PM
>Subject: [802SEC] Ethernet Retrospective for July Plenary 
>Here is a relevant and entertaining factoid from Rich Seifert's "The
>Switch Book: The Complete Guide to LAN Switching Technology":
>     [Great book, by the way]:
>"In February 1980, a meeting was held at the Jack Tar Hotel in San
>Francisco, California, to discuss the development of an industry
>standard for Local Area Networks. That meeting (and many others
>subsequent to it) spawned the creation of IEEE Project 802, one of
>the largest and longest-running activities within the IEEE standards
>   I was at that meeting. The Jack Tar Hotel no longer exists (the
>Cathedral Hill Hotel is now located at the same site), but the IEEE
>802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee does. Interestingly, although much of
>the constituency of the IEEE 802 committee comes from Northern
>California (Silicon Valley), that first meeting was the only time
>that a full IEEE 802 (plenary) session was held anywhere in the San
>Francisco Bay Area. It's much more fun to travel to Maui, Montreal,
>New Orleans, and the like than to stay at home and work."
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From:
> >[] On Behalf Of Paul
> >Nikolich
> >     Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:25 AM
> >     To: IEEE802
> >     Subject: [802SEC] Tutorial slot reservation for July Plenary
> >
> >     Dear SEC,
> >
> >     I wish to reserve the July 22 8PM-9:30PM Tutorial Slot for an
> >"Ethernet Retrospective".
> >
> >     It turns out 2003 is the 30th anniversary of Ethernet, and Bob
> >Metcalfe will be in San Francisco the week of the July Plenary
> >Session and would be available to be a speaker at this session.
> >Geoff Thompson has agreed to speak, and Geoff and I will try to get
> >two more Ethernet 'old-timers' to give their perspective as well.
> >
> >     More details to come.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >
> >     --Paul Nikolich
> >     Chairman, IEEE 802