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From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Paul Nikolich
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18--(open July30-close Aug 29th)DISAPPROVE
Unless 802.18 has its own approved procedures in place that contradict the 802 procedures I feel that I am forced to vote against this motion.We do ... Section 2.2 of the "Policies and Procedures of the IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group (“RR-TAG”)", whichwas drafted by the RR-TAG collectively, with lots of discussion and forethought, and approved unanimously by the members, states:
Thus, I believe that the motion is in order (the EC does have to confirm Denis as Vice-chair of 802.18), as the procedures followed to bring Denis before the EC as a candidate for EC confirmation were correctly observed.
Our procedures say:
- > As Chair of 802.18, I appointed Denis to the position of Vice-chair,
- > and the membership of 802.18 unanimously affirmed that appointment.
- 5.1.2 Chair
LMSC Working Group Chairs and Vice Chairs shall be elected by the Working Group and confirmed by the LMSC Executive Committee. As stated above, 802.18's P&P says "appointed by the Chair and confirmed by the TAG" (members)By my read of what has been put before me "appointed by the chair and affirmed by the membership" is not the same or even equivalent to "elected by the Working Group"
This is no reflection whatsoever on Denis whom I would have been delighted to vote to confirm had his placement been done according to procedure.Understood that you have no issue with Denis, but with procedure ... I believe I have demonstrated that the 802.18 P&P *ws* followed ... in fact, read on ...
If I am mistaken please point me to chapter and verse.Having read ahead one e-mail, to Mat's questions to Geoff and myself, I will answer here ...
Before making the appointment, I noted to the group that Denis had been effectively doing the work of a Vice-chair/Secretary since the inception of 802.18 at the July 2002 Plenary. I asked informally if anyone else was interested in being Vice-chair (ear-shattering silence and mild head shaking of the side to side variety) and then, as sort of a "straw poll" if anyone would have any issue with me appointing Denis as Vice-chair of 802.18 ... again, it was VERY clear that NOBODY else wanted to sign up to do the work of Vice-chair and that everyone was VERY happy with Denis.
It was at that point, seeing no others interested in the position and everyone supportive of Denis being appointed that I stated that I would make the appointment, per the approved 802.18 P&P.
The confirmation was moved by Mr. Notor and seconded by Mr. Murray.
The confirmation motion carried unanimously (and enthusiastically, I might add).
I hope that this clears up Geoff's concerns about procedural correctness and that he will consider changing his DISAPPROVE vote to APPROVE.
Carl R. Stevenson
Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
610-965-8799 (home office)
610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
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At 11:26 AM 7/30/2003 -0400, Paul Nikolich wrote:Reply-To: "Paul Nikolich" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: "Paul Nikolich" <email@example.com>
To: "IEEE802" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:26:16 -0400
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++
Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18-- (open July30-close Aug 29th)
Dear SEC members,
This is a 30 day SEC email ballot to make a determination by SEC motion to
confirm Denis Kuwahara as vice-chair of 802.18. See the specific motion
Moved by Carl Stevenson
Seconded by Stuart Kerry
The email ballot opens on Wednesday July 30th noon EDT and closes Friday
August 29th NOON EDT.
Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector with a CC directly to me
- Paul Nikolich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <email@example.com>
To: "802 SEC Reflector (E-mail)" <stds-802-SEC@ieee.org>
Cc: "802. 18 Reflector (E-mail)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Motion to Confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of 802.18
> Moved: Stevenson
> 2nd: Kerry
> To confirm Denis Kuwahara as Vice-chair of the IEEE 802.18 Radio
> Regulatory Technical Advisory Group.
> Information to Executive Committee Members:
> Denis has been an extremely active member of the 802.18 RR-TAG
> since its inception, and has been extremely helpful to the Chair,
> acting, in effect, as Vice-chair/Secretary "pro-tem" ... helping keep
> attendance, taking minutes, etc., greatly reducing the burden on
> me and helping the group to have effective, efficient meetings.
> Denis was also very active in the Regulatory Ad Hoc group that
> preceded the formation of 802.18, and has, thus, been a valued
> contributor for quite some time.
> As Chair of 802.18, I appointed Denis to the position of Vice-chair,
> and the membership of 802.18 unanimously affirmed that appointment.
> Thus, I urge the IEEE 802 Executive Committee to confirm Denis as
> the Vice-chair of 802.18.
> Paul, or designate, please initiate an Executive Committee e-mail ballot
> on this motion at your earliest convenience.
> Carl R. Stevenson
> Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
> 610-965-8799 (home office)
> 610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
> 610-570-6168 (cellphone)
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