going into all of the schedule detail, I respectfully
disagree that there is no compelling reason to reduce the 15
days down to 10 days. As I am working to submit the 802.3bs
draft in time to meet the Revcom Oct 16 submission date, the
extra 5 days would be extremely beneficial.
to the 10 versus 15 days – I think 15 days is more
appropriate early in the Sponsor Ballot Process, but as you
are approaching the end 10 days would then be reasonable.
This seems to be better considered on case-by-case basis
by the WG Chair.
But it does
seem that there are no rules that really force a 15 day
I don't believe our Sponsor P&P says anything about this.
The text you quote therefore applies to 802 Sponsor ballots.
We presumably stated 15 days for WG recirculations because we
thought the 10 day default (assuming "make WG ballot just like
Sponsor ballot") was not considered long enough.
There is no compelling reason to make it any smaller because
we are limited to a 2 month cycle by
our WG meetings.
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
Phone: +1 (971) 203-2032
On 30/08/2017 17:11, John D'Ambrosia
In reviewing the rules regarding
recirculation period for sponsor balloting, I have come some
text that is unclear to me.
The IEEE 802 WG P&P States –
11.0 Actions requiring an electronic
ballot require comments on changes required to modify the
vote to Approve. For a letter ballot on a draft standard to
be valid a majority of all the voting members of the Working
Group must have responded Approve, Do Not Approve, or
Abstain. Comment resolution, recirculations, etc. should be
consistent with Sponsor ballot rules and 184.108.40.206 of the
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual (SASB OM).
The response time for a Working Group
letter ballot on a draft shall be at least thirty days.
However, for recirculation ballots the response time shall
be at least fifteen days.
Submission of a draft standard or a
revised standard to the Sponsor shall be accompanied by any
outstanding negative votes and a statement of why these
unresolved negative votes could not be resolved.
Revised drafts approved in subsequent
Working Group letter ballot for forwarding to the Sponsor
Ballot Group do not require Sponsor approval for forwarding.
However, the IEEE-SA Std Board Manual
220.127.116.11 Ballot term Each ballot in the
standards balloting process shall close at 23:59 UTC-124 on
the closing date specified on the ballot. The length of the
ballot and associated recirculations is set by the Sponsor.
The initial ballot term shall be at least 30 days in
duration. The recirculation ballot term shall be at
least 10 days in duration.
When I spoke with David, he believe we
have used a minimum of 15 days for Sponsor Ballots, but in
light of these rules it is unclear where IEEE 802 has a
requirement for a minimum of days for a sponsor ballot
Can anyone clarify another rule I may
have missed? And what are WG Chairs requiring for Sponsor
Ballot Recirculations? Your input would be greatly
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