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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] [Roaming TTT]: Please review proposed resolution for 6147



Hi Peshal,

 

Thank you for your suggestion. We got rid of the term ‘initial’ as a resolution to CID 12354. I like Mike’s suggestion (see the email from him on this topic).

 

Regards,
Abhi

 

From: Peshal Nayak <p.nayak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2025 8:09 PM
To: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Roaming TTT]: Please review proposed resolution for 6147

 

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Hi Abhi,

 

Thanks for sharing. In the proposed spec text, the initial AP MLD is being replaced with the text “an AP MLD through which it associated with the SME-ME in the past”. I think the term “in the past” is too vague. A device can use Wi-Fi and switch to cellular and again use Wi-Fi.

 

When the device first connects to Wi-Fi, the non-AP MLD may have performed an initial association with the SMD-ME via an AP MLD 1 (say) and when the device connects the second time, the non-AP MLD may perform an initial association with the SMD-ME via an AP MLD 2. Both AP MLDs are AP MLDs through which the non-AP MLD associated with the SMD-ME in the past. But I think your intention is to refer to AP MLD 2 and not AP MLD1.

 

How about rephrase as follows –

 

NOTE – If the non-AP MLD does an SMD BSS transition back to an AP MLD through which it performed an initial association to the SMD-ME (see 37.16.3 (Initial association to the SMD-ME)), the new Per-AP MLD PTK is derived using the existing SMD_KDK as described in the previous paragraph (i.e., the SMD_KDK is not rederived).  

 

Since the term initial association is also not defined in 11bn, I think referring to the sec. 37.16.3 is helpful. We’ve done this in D1.0 whenever the term initial association was used.

 

Thanks.

Peshal

 

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Hi TTT members for roaming,


Thomas and I discussed and came up with the following text as resolution for CID 6147. Could you please review and let us know if you have any suggestions for the proposed text:

6147

Chien-Fang Hsu

37.16.5.4

245.40

the definition of "initial AP MLD" is not clear.

define the initial AP MLD as the AP MLD that the non-AP MLD performs initial  association  to  the  SMD-ME



Regards,
Abhi


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