Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
Hi,
I would like to see the 802.20 opening plenary begin at 1:00pm.
Todd H. Chauvin
Robert D. Love wrote:
>All, if there is a serious issue of moving the meeting time earlier, I am
>willing to compromise by starting the plenary at 1:30pm instead of 1:00pm on
>Monday. That is the time for our first meeting REQUIRED for 802.20
>attendance. Even if we start at 1:00pm, there is no way we will be beyond
>the familiar boiler-plate slides by 1:30pm, which is the time each of us
>should be planning on being there, so I still prefer to start at 1:00pm.
>The meeting agenda is developed based on the work ahead of us. Because
>there has not been the sense of urgency in the past to squeeze another
>couple of hours into our work week is no excuse to continue on a
>lackadaisical schedule.
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>As far as not being able to get a sense of the group, it seems that we are
>getting a sense of both those in favor and against the move of the 802.20
>start time with exactly the process that is going on now.
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>Finally, the principal task of 802.20 is to move the work of 802.20 forward.
>Understanding that many people have interest in more than one working group,
>the conference organizers have specifically planned in substantial
>opportunity to interact with participants from other Working Groups, and to
>find out what they are planning for the week. There is an 802 opening
>plenary where we can hear first hand what is planned for the week. There
>are also the set of 802 WG websites where we can read any and all
>contributions, including the WG agendas, to learn what is happening. We can
>join any and all 802 Working Group reflectors that we have an interest in.
>Finally, there is time in the mornings before the meetings while we have our
>continental breakfasts, during breaks, and during the Wednesday evening
>social, to interact with members of other Working Groups. Given all these
>opportunities, I am hard pressed to see why it would be a hardship to miss
>the joint wireless opening plenary. On the other hand, I certainly see a
>hardship to have 802.20 give up at least two precious hours of our plenary
>meeting to attend a meeting that does almost nothing to advance the agenda
>and mission of 802.20.
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>Best regards,
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>Robert D. Love
>President, LAN Connect Consultants
>7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
>Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
>email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 208 978-1187
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Thomas Kolze" <tkolze@broadcom.com>
>To: <stds-802-mobility@ieee.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:59 PM
>Subject: RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
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>>Jerry, colleagues,
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>>I prefer continuing with the policy we at 802.20 decided upon months ago,
>>and practiced in Vancouver: we should conduct the 802.20 plenary after
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>>I feel it would be inappropriate for you to change this decision and
>>practice of the group, at this time.
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>>With all respect for our colleagues, and I encourage all to speak their
>>opinions and wishes, as you have indeed requested, but I do not see how a
>>true "sense of the group" can be collected now, to justify changing the
>>starting time of our plenary. There is less than a month to go!
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>>It is an additional matter of concern, for me at least, that the starting
>>time for our plenary is being suggested to move EARLIER. How could any
>>majority of the group members, regardless of how sizable, move the meeting
>>to an EARLIER time, on short notice, if even ONE member is not heard from
>>and in agreement? How is it fair to move UP the starting time of the
>>plenary, by any non-unanimous majority? Again, I feel it would be
>>especially inappropriate for you to move the start time of the 802 plenary
>>to an earlier time; this would have an especially bad appearance for a
>>Chair, in overturning the direction and practice previously selected by
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>>group. My opinion.
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>>Finally, for those interested in the wireless PARs, and possibly other
>>activities and concerns of the 802 wireless groups, it seems to me more
>>efficient to attend the wireless opening plenary, and use the occasion to
>>ask questions, and coordinate, than to blow off the meeting and try to
>>coordinate in a more ad hoc manner. I think the two-hour opening plenary
>>should be a priority, and be utilized, by those greatly interested in the
>>wireless PARs. Of course, there are many reasons for interest in the
>>wireless plenary, and it is not my position here to weight one more than
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>>other. It IS my opinion that moving up our 802.20 plenary is
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>>Sincerely,
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>>Thomas J. Kolze, Ph.D.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Steve
>>Crowley
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:29 AM
>>To: 'Robert D. Love'; 'Jerry Upton'; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
>>Subject: RE: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
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>>I prefer keeping the original 4 pm time for the opening 802.20 plenary.
>>Since 802.20 was formed, I think I have attended all of the joint wireless
>>plenary meetings, as well as many 802.11 closing plenary meetings on
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>>Though I spend most of my time in 802.20, I am interested in what is
>>happening in all other 802 wireless groups. I find those two meetings to
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>>useful for getting a sense of where things stand, and for exchanging
>>information with participants from other groups.
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>>Regards,
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>>Steve Crowley
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>>Steven J. Crowley, P.E.
>>1201 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W. Suite 300
>>Washington, D.C. 20004
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>>Tel. +1-202-544-5400
>>Fax +1-202-478-1763
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>>E-mail scrowley@attglobal.net
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org
>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-mobility@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf
>>>Of Robert D. Love
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:51 AM
>>>To: Jerry Upton; stds-802-mobility@ieee.org
>>>Subject: Re: stds-802-mobility: March agenda
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>>>All, whether you are for or against moving the opening 802.20
>>>plenary at 1:00pm rather than at 4:00pm, please make your
>>>preference known by a quick email to this reflector if you
>>>haven't already done so. Dawn needs to know what our Monday
>>>afternoon meeting room requirements are by this Friday, so
>>>Jerry needs to make a decision by then and let Dawn know.
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