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Re: [802SEC] PAR Development



Hi James,

Industry Connection Activities are subject to the Industry Connections Committee (ICCom) Operations Manual.  

Subclause 5.1 (Industry Connections Committee) of the IEEE Standards Association Industry Engagement and Sector Strategies (IESS) Strategic Management & Delivery Committee (SMDC) Operations Manual (attached), approved by the IEEE SA Board of Governors (BoG) in December, states that the ICCom Operations Manual governs Industry Connections (IC) activities.

When ICCom reported to the IEEE Standards Association Standards Board (SASB), this was defined in the IEEE SASB Bylaws. As previously noted, clause 1 in the ICCom OpMan contains:
" Additionally, this document also addresses some universal policies and procedures which are to be followed by groups which are undertaking Industry Connections (IC) activities."
and
"Such activities may complement, supplement, or be precursors of IEEE Standards projects, but they do not themselves develop IEEE standards."

Clause 9.2 contains:
"IC activities shall avoid development of work products that should be undertaken through the IEEE SA PAR/Standards Development process or the ISTO process."


Best regards,

Jodi


Jodi Haasz

Senior Manager,

Operational Program Management

Office: +1 732-562-6367

Mobile: +1 732-439-9144 | standards.ieee.org


      

  




On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:43 AM James P. K. Gilb <Gilb_IEEE@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jodi

ICCom's Operational Manual is not listed as a superior document to our P&P.

In our approve P&P, the only superior documents are:

New York State Not-for-Profit Corporation Law
IEEE Certificate of Incorporation
IEEE ConstitutionIEEE Bylaws
IEEE Policies
IEEE Board of Directors Resolutions
IEEE Standards Association (IEEE-SA) Operations Manual
IEEE-SA Board of Governors Resolutions
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
IEEE-SA Standards Board Resolutions

I am unaware of any superior document that prevents us from adopting a
more limited role for an ICAID.

James Gilb

On 1/17/22 2:04 PM, Jodi Haasz wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
>
> As ICCom is responsible for all ICAID's, the ICCom Operations Manual takes
> precedence over the LAN/MAN Standards Committee P&Ps.  NENDICA can
> recommend to IEEE 802.1 that a PAR be developed and that the PAR be drafted
> by the IEEE 802.1 Working Group.
>
> Best regards,
> Jodi
>
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>
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>
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> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:42 PM Glenn Parsons <glenn.parsons@ericsson.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jodi,
>>
>>
>>
>> The question is if the ICCom OpsMan applies to Nendica.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would assert that it does not.  Each ICAID declares whether it uses
>> ICAID P&Ps (which is subordinate to the ICCom OpsMan) or WG & SC P&P (which
>> does not have the ICCom OpsMan in its hierarchy).  Nendica uses the latter
>> (per 7.3 of the ICAID):
>>
>>
>> https://standards.ieee.org/content/dam/ieee-standards/standards/web/governance/iccom/IC17-001-IE.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> So Nendica is a subgroup of 802.1 which may be tasked to draft a PAR
>> according to the LMSC P&P.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Glenn.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <
>> STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> *On Behalf Of *Jodi Haasz
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 3:00 PM
>> *To:* STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> *Subject:* [802SEC] PAR Development
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All:
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the question that came up today regarding PAR development, please
>> note that the last paragraph of subclause 9.2 of the IEEE SA Industry
>> Connections Committee Operations Manual
>> <https://standards.ieee.org/content/dam/ieee-standards/standards/web/governance/iccom/iccom_opsman.pdf>,
>> states "IC activities shall avoid development of work products that should
>> be undertaken through the IEEE SA PAR/Standards Development process or the
>> ISTO process."
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jodi
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jodi Haasz*
>>
>> Senior Manager,
>>
>> Operational Program Management
>>
>> Office: +1 732-562-6367
>>
>> Mobile: +1 732-439-9144 | standards.ieee.org
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